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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I think it's inaccurate to portray the community one way or another, but it could always be a little better. In the end, it's not SE's problem but our own. It's a collective effort for things to be one way or another and it starts with how we act and respond to different things.
    Except things don't need to be one way or the other in most cases. There are usually many ways to get the same or very similar end result.

    The moment someone is told they should be doing things a certain way, they're going to get defensive. That's trying to dictate their playstyle, which we've been warned not to do.

    The better way to approach helping someone is to say "would you mind a suggestion that will make things easier/more enjoyable when playing your job?" then leave it up to them whether they want the advice. People tend to be more receptive when allowed to choose instead of having it forced on them or when you express it as wanting to help them have more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The better way to approach helping someone is to say "would you mind a suggestion that will make things easier/more enjoyable when playing your job?" then leave it up to them whether they want the advice. People tend to be more receptive when allowed to choose instead of having it forced on them or when you express it as wanting to help them have more fun.
    To this, I'd add that people tend to be more open to advice after they tank the floor or the party wipes: "lol, what just happened?"
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Except things don't need to be one way or the other in most cases. There are usually many ways to get the same or very similar end result.

    The moment someone is told they should be doing things a certain way, they're going to get defensive. That's trying to dictate their playstyle, which we've been warned not to do.

    The better way to approach helping someone is to say "would you mind a suggestion that will make things easier/more enjoyable when playing your job?" then leave it up to them whether they want the advice. People tend to be more receptive when allowed to choose instead of having it forced on them or when you express it as wanting to help them have more fun.
    Adding onto this, it's also CYA. If you ask first and you get agreement, then it's there in the logs that you weren't trying to force anything or create a bad environment or dictate to people, etc. Asking first is polite, respectful of the player, keeps control in their hands, and can help make them receptive to assistance. But it also protects the one trying to help.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    To this, I'd add that people tend to be more open to advice after they tank the floor or the party wipes: "lol, what just happened?"
    LOL, this too. Party wipes and you offer up "Is there anything I can explain to help" and so many are often like "YES. PLEASE"
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