Mentor Roulette needs a serious overhaul

[Bsrking5]

That\\'s the last thing they should do. It\\'s not weenie roulette.

Do go on, Explain

[Zsolen]

Do go on, Explain

Mentor roulette should not be a cakewalk. it's not a normal roulette. Extremes are not hardcore content. A mentor actually worth their salt should be able to help people in it. Put your big boy or girl pants on and do it. If the spouts can't handle it, they will likely abandon it themselves.

[Absimiliard]

Mentor roulette should not be a cakewalk. it's not a normal roulette. Extremes are not hardcore content. A mentor actually worth their salt should be able to help people in it. Put your big boy or girl pants on and do it. If the spouts can't handle it, they will likely abandon it themselves.

The vast majority of mentors have little to no experience outside of passable job knowledge, if they even have that. Heck, a lot of them actually seem to be worse at the game than many sprouts. Like I said before: either increase the requirements to be a mentor or remove extremes from the roulette. Having low reqs and extremes in the roulette is just begging for trouble.

[FireMage]

That's the last thing they should do. It's not weenie roulette.

I was correct in what I stated, there was no need for your miscorrection

[Zsolen]

The vast majority of mentors have little to no experience outside of passable job knowledge, if they even have that. Heck, a lot of them actually seem to be worse at the game than many sprouts. Like I said before: either increase the requirements to be a mentor or remove extremes from the roulette. Having low reqs and extremes in the roulette is just begging for trouble.

Then they should not be doing mentor roulette. The people in mentor roulette that realize that can't cut it will eventually stop, if there were penalties for bailing beyond the 30 minutes penalty.

[Avoidy]

I love the idea of a "fill" roulette. I never bothered doing mentor roulette even when I had the crown (I let it expire and never renewed) because I didn't want to wind up in some Extreme content that I'd unsynced ages ago and didn't know how to do, while having the added expectation that I guide other players who won't listen to basic advice. My only experience with an EX done in the dutyfinder was LEviathan, back when falling off was permadeath, and we never got very far because even when I'd mark myself with a giant circle and run to the safe zone and jump up and down there, people just wouldn't follow and they'd die every single time.

At least in a "filler" roulette situation, nobody would expect me to magically understand everything about 9 year old content or whatever.

[Arhkun]

I like the idea of helping out sprouts, but 1500 commendations shouldnt be a requirement to do so. Id say most people that have cleared the MSQ are probably capable of lending a helping hand with the mentioned "Fill-Roulette".

[Bsrking5]

Mentor roulette should not be a cakewalk. it's not a normal roulette. Extremes are not hardcore content. A mentor actually worth their salt should be able to help people in it. Put your big boy or girl pants on and do it. If the spouts can't handle it, they will likely abandon it themselves.

That doesn't explain anything. What makes it not a normal roulette? The mount for doing 2k? You can one of the tank mounts from daily roulettes. Btw extremes are not casual content. Casual (combat) content is content that can easily be cleared with limited number of wipes and general knowledge. That puts it in hardcore.

The goal isn't to pair sprouts with mentors in content they will just abandon.

[Zsolen]

That doesn't explain anything. What makes it not a normal roulette? The mount for doing 2k? You can one of the tank mounts from daily roulettes. Btw extremes are not casual content. Casual (combat) content is content that can easily be cleared with limited number of wipes and general knowledge. That puts it in hardcore.

The goal isn't to pair sprouts with mentors in content they will just abandon.

You are pretty arrogant for someone that doesn't know extremes are actually casual content. Extremes are meant as a bridge, so people learning extremes sets them up to make that decision if they should try savage or not. It's not the hard content itself. The mount is there so people will take the roulette seriously. Right now, many still don't.

Mentors are there to teach. While it has limited use in dungeons and guildhests, it should shine in extremes. If you are a mentor you should be able to handle extremes, even if you have to quick open up a guide on your phone, because you haven't done it in a while.

Not every sprout abandons stuff. It's more likely the mentors that bail currently (and some do it as soon as they see the instance), making the sprouts not have a chance to try the content in a queue in which they likely waited a while. The mentor should not be the first to leave. They signed up for it.

[FireMage]

You are pretty arrogant for someone that doesn't know extremes are actually casual content. Extremes are meant as a bridge, so people learning extremes sets them up to make that decision if they should try savage or not. It's not the hard content itself. The mount is there so people will take the roulette seriously. Right now, many still don't.

Mentors are there to teach. While it has limited use in dungeons and guildhests, it should shine in extremes. If you are a mentor you should be able to handle extremes, even if you have to quick open up a guide on your phone, because you haven't done it in a while.

Not every sprout abandons stuff. It's more likely the mentors that bail currently (and some do it as soon as they see the instance), making the sprouts not have a chance to try the content in a queue in which they likely waited a while. The mentor should not be the first to leave. They signed up for it.

A mentor being able to handle extremes doesn't mean your average t-cup CAN