Mentor Roulette needs a serious overhaul

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I've been a mentor for years and don't have Mentor Roulette unlocked cause I have all these "????" on the duty list but no clue what it is or where/how to unlock it. I tried to finish the list and after still having like 10 of these optional things that I don't even know they exist...I just gave up looking for them. Could I get these done? Absolutely. It's just not worth the effort.

Same.

I only have few StB EX trials left to clear then I’m good to queue for the roulette, but frankly I don’t think I have that patience of a saint to deal with every sort of personalities I’ve read in those anecdotes… I’d rather just let the roulette collect dusts than subjecting randoms to my potentially bad outbursts lol.

[LianaThorne]

Same.

I only have few StB EX trials left to clear then I’m good to queue for the roulette, but frankly I don’t think I have that patience of a saint to deal with every sort of personalities I’ve read in those anecdotes… I’d rather just let the roulette collect dusts than subjecting randoms to my potentially bad outbursts lol.

Been there, just joined unsync parties and dipped after I got my clears. Took me a day or two to get the ones I was missing. No need to outburst or anything at people at that point since you're in and out in 5m with each with how braindead the unsync strats are now.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Been there, just joined unsync parties and dipped after I got my clears. Took me a day or two to get the ones I was missing. No need to outburst or anything at people at that point since you're in and out in 5m with each with how braindead the unsync strats are now.

Eh, the outburst meant for "if I get to unlock Mentor Roulette & doing it".

I'm aware those EX are easy to unsync nowadays. I just haven't mustered any motivation to get them cleared. Not being a 'mount person' certainly allows me to not bother them at all.

[Lunalepsy]

Greetings,

Id say the title really gives it away. The current state of Mentor Roulette is completely outdated and 90% of the content that you queue into, has nothing to do with being a Mentor.
If it was renamed "Fill-Roulette", itd be a much more fitting title.
The only times where a Mentor can actually help and guide new players, is when we are queued into a synced extreme fight, maybe arguably even a normal trial/raid.
(That is to say people actually listen/follow advice, which we will just assume they do in this post (harassment and ridiculing mentors could be its very own post)).

A seasoned player will not be able to help somebody in a guildhest/regular dungeon or something like castrum meridianum, honestly, the game does a well enough job to teach each player how it works/how it wants to be played. The only aspects that a Mentor can usually address are basic concepts like using aoe spells on multiple mobs or using your cooldowns correctly, but again, the game has a built in system for each role that does a sufficient job.

Now heres my idea: Make 2 new roulettes.
Like mentioned eariler, Fill-Roullette, which would replace the current Mentor Roullette.
Exact same content, completely random and you would just fill spots that are hard to come by otherwise.
New Mentor Roullette, would work via the party finder.
No more hard-queueing extremes, only via PF.
Now, people that help out such groups actually join as a guide/mentor, prepared.
I also suggest increased rewards for such effort, as it can take a good amount of time to help such groups out, especially if you have to explain the entire encounter from start to finish.

This idea is by no means finished and might leave much to be desired before it can actually make it into the game, but I hope this at least sparks a discussion or directs SEs attention to the problem.

Tldr: Mentors are supposed to help and guide new players, not be the fill for content nobody else wanted to do.

The whole game needs an overhaul.

[Bukachu]

I think its fine as it is, filling up spots that are needed are a big part of being a mentor and helping out community.

being a mentor isnt just about teaching people what and how to do.

[Liam_Harper]

I think its fine as it is, filling up spots that are needed are a big part of being a mentor and helping out community.

That's why it's not fine. Filling up spots is important, but it's restricted to Mentor only.

Personally I'd turn Mentor Roulette into Adventurer in Need Roulette. Anyone could queue for it and it would fill in any duties (EX and Savage excluded) with long wait times. It would also be tied to the Astrope mount.

Mentorship itself needs a full rework. No rewards or crowns and better systems for players who want to learn to actually find help from other players.

[Bukachu]

Frankly I am quite surprised how easy is to become a mentor,

Its the opposite for me, I find the "1500 comedations" part extremly tedious and long. for PVE mentor that is, rest of things are fine but 1500 comedations is just too much for me. and aside from that other requirements are too vague. "get level 80 with a healer"

I think getting better requirements for PvE mentor would be nice. PvE has so many aspects that isnt limited to "raid, trial, dungeon" and including those achivements in requirement would be neat imo.

That's why it's not fine. Filling up spots is important, but it's restricted to Mentor only.

Personally I'd turn Mentor Roulette into Adventurer in Need Roulette. Anyone could queue for it and it would fill in any duties (EX and Savage excluded) with long wait times. It would also be tied to the Astrope mount.

Mentorship itself needs a full rework. No rewards or crowns and better systems for players who want to learn to actually find help from other players.

aside from extremes and savages I dont think its restricted to mentors only. and extremes and savages isnt something a new player should be doing imo, its just that far away in difficulty from "normal" stuff.

that's just my feedback as a new player at least, I didnt know I "wasnt suppoed to queue them" and when I did it was a wipe fest for an hour until people left, awful experience. ultimately I learned not to queue them from mentor too who I also became good friends with.

I do agree that mentorship needs a full rework however, but my reasoning is different, most mentors are quiet literally clueless about the game sadly, as I was leveling I met 10-15% who could answer questions but most had no idea about close to anything, and it was just people who played 1000 roulette dungeons, got 1500 comedations and were too bored to level 3 jobs to 80.

[Deveryn]

that's just my feedback as a new player at least, I didnt know I "wasnt suppoed to queue them" and when I did it was a wipe fest for an hour until people left, awful experience. ultimately I learned not to queue them from mentor too who I also became good friends with.

This is really the core of the problem in the West and all that really needs to be addressed. Baldesion Arsenal got a nice block of text warning about the difficulty. This is all that's really needed at some point in people's discovery of Extremes.

[Zsolen]

Any mentor that says newbies shouldn't do extreme trials probably can't do extreme trials themselves. That's horrible advice.

[Jettinson]

Frankly I am quite surprised how easy is to become a mentor, I have the requirements for either crafter/gatherer and pve and I have NEVER did a synced extreme trial aside Emerald Weapon but that was week 1 or 2, so it was more of a learning session which was the first time learning of shared tank buster lol.


Personally I do not even bother becoming a mentor, its roulette is just not worth it, the mount isn't enticing or worth the pain, having a crown is also a bigger pain because you will get treated differently for good or worse so expectations are off the charts.

Luckily If you plan on helping you can just become a normal player, put Join in Progress in the DF settings as your Diet Mentor Roulette and provide whatever help you can.
At the moment, mentor roulette feels like it exists just to exist, nothing against the mentors