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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That doesn't explain anything. What makes it not a normal roulette? The mount for doing 2k? You can one of the tank mounts from daily roulettes. Btw extremes are not casual content. Casual (combat) content is content that can easily be cleared with limited number of wipes and general knowledge. That puts it in hardcore.

    The goal isn't to pair sprouts with mentors in content they will just abandon.
    You are pretty arrogant for someone that doesn't know extremes are actually casual content. Extremes are meant as a bridge, so people learning extremes sets them up to make that decision if they should try savage or not. It's not the hard content itself. The mount is there so people will take the roulette seriously. Right now, many still don't.

    Mentors are there to teach. While it has limited use in dungeons and guildhests, it should shine in extremes. If you are a mentor you should be able to handle extremes, even if you have to quick open up a guide on your phone, because you haven't done it in a while.

    Not every sprout abandons stuff. It's more likely the mentors that bail currently (and some do it as soon as they see the instance), making the sprouts not have a chance to try the content in a queue in which they likely waited a while. The mentor should not be the first to leave. They signed up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    You are pretty arrogant for someone that doesn't know extremes are actually casual content. Extremes are meant as a bridge, so people learning extremes sets them up to make that decision if they should try savage or not. It's not the hard content itself. The mount is there so people will take the roulette seriously. Right now, many still don't.

    Mentors are there to teach. While it has limited use in dungeons and guildhests, it should shine in extremes. If you are a mentor you should be able to handle extremes, even if you have to quick open up a guide on your phone, because you haven't done it in a while.

    Not every sprout abandons stuff. It's more likely the mentors that bail currently (and some do it as soon as they see the instance), making the sprouts not have a chance to try the content in a queue in which they likely waited a while. The mentor should not be the first to leave. They signed up for it.
    A mentor being able to handle extremes doesn't mean your average t-cup CAN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post

    They signed up for it.
    So did everyone else. And yet that's not it works anything else. Just special pleading without reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    So did everyone else. And yet that's not it works anything else. Just special pleading without reason.
    The roulette is an extension of the mentor system. Stop playing dumb.

    Don't want to help? Don't do mentor roulette.
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    Get rid of the Carrot on the stick.

    BAM, mentor's cleans up the trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    The roulette is an extension of the mentor system. Stop playing dumb.

    Don't want to help? Don't do mentor roulette.
    And roulettes is an extension of duty finder, don't want to do the duty, don't use duty finder. 24 hr bans on anyone who quits first. *Can't see that going wrong*(sarcasm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    And roulettes is an extension of duty finder, don't want to do the duty, don't use duty finder. 24 hr bans on anyone who quits first. *Can't see that going wrong*(sarcasm)
    Instead of giving more attitude (yet again), realize that being a mentor is an additional requirement for mentor roulette. In no other roulette are you intentionally paired with people going through duties for the first time on purpose. Of course you know this, but you keep ignoring key details that separate it from other roulettes. Allowing mentors to cheat the roulette defeats the whole purpose of it. I gave you the answer you didn't even deserve. You don't have to like it, but you got it. Stop being disingenuous. It's not a good look.

    Also pvp has its own special penalties, when it comes to queues. This would not be anything new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Instead of giving more attitude (yet again), realize that being a mentor is an additional requirement for mentor roulette. In no other roulette are you intentionally paired with people going through duties for the first time on purpose. Of course you know this, but you keep ignoring key details that separate it from other roulettes. Allowing mentors to cheat the roulette defeats the whole purpose of it. I gave you the answer you didn't even deserve. You don't have to like it, but you got it. Stop being disingenuous. It's not a good look.

    Also pvp has its own special penalties, when it comes to queues. This would not be anything new.
    That's just the thing, mentor roulette doesn't do that. Mentor roulette isn't a skip to front of the line for first timers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That's just the thing, mentor roulette doesn't do that. Mentor roulette isn't a skip to front of the line for first timers.
    It pairs mentors with sprouts. I didn't mention anything about it being a skip to the front of the line for sprouts.

    People that actually have run the roulettes say that you will more often than not end up with new players/ sprouts.
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    Last edited by Zsolen; 10-16-2022 at 04:56 AM.

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    I've been a mentor for years and don't have Mentor Roulette unlocked cause I have all these "????" on the duty list but no clue what it is or where/how to unlock it. I tried to finish the list and after still having like 10 of these optional things that I don't even know they exist...I just gave up looking for them. Could I get these done? Absolutely. It's just not worth the effort.
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