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    caffe_macchiato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    Asking people to do a freaking AoE on repeat prompts this response?
    You did not ask players to please use their AOE rotation. You told them to stop playing the game. That is the difference.

    People here know how to use their AOE rotations. The people who need help aren't reading this. This is virtual jousting aimed at fostering a braggadocios gameplay environment. We do not need to lambast new or less-experienced players for our own pleasure. They have enough difficulty with the game as it is. Putting an ambiguous, unsizable conglomerate of players down behind their backs is a low-effort, passive-aggressive self-esteem booster and has no constructive purpose.
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 10-15-2022 at 11:59 PM.

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    Sylv Aaor
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    You did not ask players to please use their AOE rotation. You told them to stop playing the game. That is the difference.

    People here know how to use their AOE rotations. The people who need help aren't reading this. This is virtual jousting aimed at fostering a braggadocios gameplay environment. We do not need to lambast new or less-experienced players for our own pleasure. They have enough difficulty with the game as it is. Putting an ambiguous, unsizable conglomerate of players down behind their backs is a low-effort, passive-aggressive self-esteem booster and has no constructive purpose.
    if you read the very first post in this thread you'll see that they didn't tell people to stop playing the game, they told players to use the singleplayer features instead of sandbagging 3 other people in every dungeon, and yeah you're right people here already know to use them, but it's not like anyone in this thread has actually been arguing about that part, it's been almost entirely about DF randoms not using them

    and I don't see how this is supposed to be fostering a "braggadocios gameplay environment" (or "toxicity" in normal person speak) or "lambasting" new players for "pleasure", literally all anyone on this side of the argument wants is for players to have the basic competency required to realize that pressing their multi-target attacks in a multi-target situation may be a good idea

    also if anything we should be telling new players specifically about these things, someone in Sastasha <10 hours in is much more likely to improve their playstyle than someone in The Dead Ends 300 hours in.
    if someone doesn't tell them, they'll never know, and if you wait too long then they'll never change
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