Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[Ralphe2449]

I actually should be thanking you, you've made my point far more clearly than I could have...oh and dont bother trying to get into mine...they are restricted, need to know only.

It is always so ironic when these people prove your point by simply being themselves xd


The truth is healthy people(aka people whose self worth doesnt depend on video game achievements) know how to use said tools quietly, for personal fun or research, NEITHER requires said addons to be approved by SE, if anything not being approved is good so the unhealthy people get banned if they reveal themselves to use them.

[Boblawblah]

Imagine thinking that parsers keep "track of the battle". Also a green at best in 24 mans SCH should really not be trying to tell anyone anything EVER about being good enough for anything

oh oh! Tell me what color I am? Also, what do the colors mean exactly?

[Mikey_R]

oh oh! Tell me what color I am? Also, what do the colors mean exactly?

I'm not going to look you up, however, at a basic level, it is a measure of where you fall between 0-100 of the parses that have been uploaded, the lowest parse being 0 and the highest being 100. I couldn't tell you the exact breakdown for each colour however.

[Ivtrix]

I'm not going to look you up, however, at a basic level, it is a measure of where you fall between 0-100 of the parses that have been uploaded, the lowest parse being 0 and the highest being 100. I couldn't tell you the exact breakdown for each colour however.

the player asking does not participate in end game content

[Atelier-Bagur]

It is always so ironic when these people prove your point by simply being themselves xd


The truth is healthy people(aka people whose self worth doesnt depend on video game achievements) know how to use said tools quietly, for personal fun or research, NEITHER requires said addons to be approved by SE, if anything not being approved is good so the unhealthy people get banned if they reveal themselves to use them.

100% this, the people whom use plugins in the most positive way in an environment where it's discouraged follow the established rules by not being loud about it. If the main argument is to encourage personal development then why are we even having this conversation? Why need to push it into the limelight when time and time again yoshi-p has answered countless times his stance about add-ons and the community has accepted the keeping it in the hush rule that nicely keeps everyone happy? Why disturb the balance of the natural order?

It's this kind of behavior that irritates me and it's going to end up ruining it for everyone. And then nobody will be happy.

[Ransu]

Oof another bad faith post out of you, do you do anything in good faith?

Its not bad faith though lol. Literally the majority of your parses are green and grey. You can't say something's not toxic and make statements like

"Also a green at best in 24 mans SCH should really not be trying to tell anyone anything EVER about being good enough for anything"

And then get mad when people turn your own toxicity on you. Its always the mediocre players advocating for stuff like this without realizing they are the toxic ones and would be the first ones kicked out of a group. Either way, I reiterate that this conversation is pointless as open parsing is never going to happen.

[FireMage]

Its not bad faith though lol. Literally the majority of your parses are green and grey.

They aren't though. Do try again, troll

[Mikey_R]

the player asking does not participate in end game content

I never implied one way or the other whether they did or not, I merely stated a very very simplified view on what people mean when they talk about colours in reference to FFlogs. I only mentioned the fact I wasn't going to look them up because they asked for their colour and I wanted to clarify that I was not going to provide it for them.

[Ransu]

They aren't though. Do try again, troll

P5S is the only one you have good runs on, which is also the easiest of all the fights.

P5S - 1 orange, 3 purple and 2 grey. Median of 80. Your only good set of runs.
P6S - 2 greens, 3 greys and 1 blue. Median of 23.8
P7S - 5 greys, 1 blue. Median of 19.5
P8S Door - 3 blue, 3 green 3 grey. Median of 34.1
P8S Part 2 you have one clear which is a grey. Median of 9.1

You have a death in nearly every clear, some of them several times. Whether they were your fault or not doesn't matter. By your own standards PF leaders would kick you out of the group. Your logs also shows that parsing honestly doesn't matter and people can be carried. So ya, the current system we have where parse if you want to, but keep it to yourself is perfectly fine. I hate using logs like this. I think its a terrible thing to do, but pointing out the level of toxicity you're asking for and why what you want is bad is the only thing that can be done here.

[Absimiliard]

Imagine thinking that parsers keep "track of the battle". Also a green at best in 24 mans SCH should really not be trying to tell anyone anything EVER about being good enough for anything

What kind of moron parses in 24 mans in the first place? That's like cutting off your own leg and attempting to run a race with 23 other people who plucked out their eyes instead. It's a useless endeavor outside of a structured environment, as any number of things can bone you out of your DPS without you having any control over it. Mostly other players.