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    Also a green at best in 24 mans SCH should really not be trying to tell anyone anything EVER about being good enough for anything
    Folks:

    Exhibit one in why and how both logs and parses can be and are misused.

    Unless that person has applied to your static, is a member of your static, is doing any form of high end content with you, you have no business nosing into their logs. Using logs to denigrate or belittle other players is EXACTLY the kind of behaviour that Yoshi was talking about, and why he is so against dps meters ingame.

    I actually should be thanking you, you've made my point far more clearly than I could have...oh and dont bother trying to get into mine...they are restricted, need to know only.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 10-11-2022 at 10:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Folks:

    Exhibit one in why and how both logs and parses can be and are misused.

    Unless that person has applied to your static, is a member of your static, is doing any form of high end content with you, you have no business nosing into their logs. Using logs to denigrate or belittle other players is EXACTLY the kind of behaviour that Yoshi was talking about, and why he is so against dps meters ingame.

    I actually should be thanking you, you've made my point far more clearly than I could have
    Your point was that logs are toxic. Showing someone talking out their ass isn't toxic, it's a public service
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your point was that logs are toxic. Showing someone talking out their ass isn't toxic, it's a public service
    But you are also a grey/green parser lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    But you are also a grey/green parser lol.
    Oof another bad faith post out of you, do you do anything in good faith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Oof another bad faith post out of you, do you do anything in good faith?
    Its not bad faith though lol. Literally the majority of your parses are green and grey. You can't say something's not toxic and make statements like

    "Also a green at best in 24 mans SCH should really not be trying to tell anyone anything EVER about being good enough for anything"

    And then get mad when people turn your own toxicity on you. Its always the mediocre players advocating for stuff like this without realizing they are the toxic ones and would be the first ones kicked out of a group. Either way, I reiterate that this conversation is pointless as open parsing is never going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I actually should be thanking you, you've made my point far more clearly than I could have...oh and dont bother trying to get into mine...they are restricted, need to know only.
    It is always so ironic when these people prove your point by simply being themselves xd


    The truth is healthy people(aka people whose self worth doesnt depend on video game achievements) know how to use said tools quietly, for personal fun or research, NEITHER requires said addons to be approved by SE, if anything not being approved is good so the unhealthy people get banned if they reveal themselves to use them.
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.