Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[VelKallor]

Your point was that logs are toxic. Showing someone talking out their ass isn't toxic, it's a public service

Using logs to attack others..IS toxic.

[FireMage]

Using logs to attack others..IS toxic.

Showing that someone lacks knowledge on a matter is not and never will be toxic. What's toxic is your hugbox mentality

[Azuri]

Using logs to attack others..IS toxic.

Of course. But some people don't even need logs to attack others.

Exhibit A)

I mean the thing about logs, if you need parsers to keep track of the battle you aren't good enough to judge others yet anyway and should leave your mouth shut regardless.

Exhibit B)

Hey now... I think we should leave those who use Addons alone, it's not their fault that they can't play an already easy MMO without the aid of 3rd party programs telling them how to play, where to stand, how much damage their doing, and with fflogs how else are they going to stroke their own ego and get that pat on the back, to make them feel special?

Or are those two (and others of your ilk) the paragons of log-free respect and mutual agrement?

[Ivtrix]

Of course. But some people don't even need logs to attack others.

Exhibit A)



Exhibit B)



Or are those two (and others of your ilk) the paragons of log-free respect and mutual agrement?

Neither of these players understand what they are trying to argue, nor do either of these players partake in high end content, but the community will whistle and look the other way because 1) snide passive aggressive language vs Firemage who will be called out as toxic for being confrontational and 2) the forum community at large enjoys taking pot shots at raiders as a scapegoat