General Healer Discussion [The Echo Chamber]

[Semirhage]

So I'd like to know, whether in an overview or a more detailed explanation, what you would do with WHM if you had a genie wish and could do literally anything you wanted to it.

Oh, come to think of it. I have a genie wish, but it's not exactly related to WHM. I'd want to create a brand new healer job. Not sure what I'd name it, maybe Pure Healer. It'd have maybe 2-4 GCD heals to cover single target and AOE. A Medica 2 equivalent for those who like regens. A Succor-like equivalent with a damage reduction for the mitigation aspect. The job gauge is called the Sanctimony meter. See, the job would have no damage buttons. Just a passive (or actively refreshed, I'm not picky) +50% damage buff to all party members. Instead it would have a spell that replaces all single-target and AOE damage abilities from healers with a GCD called "Don't be hyperbolic I'm not just pressing ONE button. There are several in this kit". It would be a unique ability, impossible to bind to the 1 key specifically so that when people accuse this healer of pressing 111111111 they can easily say "Nuh uh, don't be ridiculous. This spell is bound to 2."

What the spell would do is provide a variety of randomized favorite catchphrases (fully voice acted!), like one of those Chatty Cathy dolls with the pull string on the back. A non-exhaustive list includes:

• I chose a HEALer to HEAL
• I'm on this job because I know what REAL healing is. All the others are just fake DPS mains besmirching the name of REAL healing.
• All of you are elitist tryhards obsessed with numbers. I actually play this game to have fun. You don't know what REAL fun is.
• I'm focused on HEALing. My cohealer is a parse-obsessed DPS wolf in healer's clothing. I'm doing all of the REAL work.
• Redditors and statistics agree that simpler classes are more popular. That means I'm more enlightened than the rest of you.
• All of you think runs are perfect! You don't know what a REAL HEALER does when someone gets a vulnerability stack. I'm the one saving our runs here. Me.
• If you don't hear anything in the next few seconds you should know it's because I'm HEALing. You know, like a HEALER should. Pay attention to how a REAL healer plays.
• I'M playing the most powerful and useful healer. My cohealer is holding you back with their fake non-healing tryhard elitist DPS main nonsense. I'm the one REALLY contributing here.

When the Sanctimony gauge hits 10 stacks, it automatically deducts 50% of all party members' remaining HP and doubles the damage buff aura to +100% for 15 seconds. The HP deduction gives the Pure Healer more opportunities to increase their HPS contribution. The damage buff they provide is strong enough that they'd be limited to one per party unless running unrestricted.

I think it would make a lot of people happy. It'd be designated as the most powerful healer. It'd provide a job that doesn't do anything but heal. We horrible numbers-obsessed elitist optimizers would have to concede that it provides the strongest benefit and we only refuse to play it due to preference. Plus it allows anyone who plays it to constantly tell everyone around them that they're better, exalted creatures more enlightened than the people who don't like simplistic jobs and it's even tied to a job gauge! I know the randomized catchphrases would draw some flack, maybe a future update could put them on optional separate buttons.

Then we can have the dream: the Five Healer Model. The Pure Healer can be the absolute best one numbers-wise. The rest of us will have to brainstorm ideas for ruining the other four jobs with like, engagement and choices and too many buttons. Horrible, I know. But I'm willing to give it a shot.

[Azuri]

*best idea ever but it takes too much space in a quote*

Then we can have the dream: the Five Healer Model. The Pure Healer can be the absolute best one numbers-wise. The rest of us will have to brainstorm ideas for ruining the other four jobs with like, engagement and choices and too many buttons. Horrible, I know. But I'm willing to give it a shot.

Finally a compromise worth getting behind. See, Renathras? This is the kind of deal might be worth making with your ilk, hesitant as I am to concede even the smallest amount of ground to you.

[ForsakenRoe]

I have a genie wish, but it's not exactly related to WHM.

this is the kind of compromise i can get behind, but the 'auto deduct 50%' worries me. what if they have a mechanic where you have to be full HP (eg someone got hit by the doom in dead ends), and the meter caps out and drains them back down by 50%? this would cause stress for the healer player. maybe a CD that makes the next gauge cap-out effect not trigger the HP removal, and just gives the buff?

[AFuzzyMu11in]

Oh,snip."

What the spell would do is provide a variety of randomized favorite catchphrases (fully voice acted!), like one of those Chatty Cathy dolls with the pull string on the back. A non-exhaustive list includes:

• I chose a HEALer to HEAL
• I'm on this job because I know what REAL healing is. All the others are just fake DPS mains besmirching the name of REAL healing.
• All of you are elitist tryhards obsessed with numbers. I actually play this game to have fun. You don't know what REAL fun is.
• I'm focused on HEALing. My cohealer is a parse-obsessed DPS wolf in healer's clothing. I'm doing all of the REAL work.
• Redditors and statistics agree that simpler classes are more popular. That means I'm more enlightened than the rest of you.
• All of you think runs are perfect! You don't know what a REAL HEALER does when someone gets a vulnerability stack. I'm the one saving our runs here. Me.
• If you don't hear anything in the next few seconds you should know it's because I'm HEALing. You know, like a HEALER should. Pay attention to how a REAL healer plays.
• I'M playing the most powerful and useful healer. My cohealer is holding you back with their fake non-healing tryhard elitist DPS main nonsense. I'm the one REALLY contributing here.

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I think it would make a lot of people happy. It'd be designated as the most powerful healer. It'd provide a job that doesn't do anything but heal. We horrible numbers-obsessed elitist optimizers would have to concede that it provides the strongest benefit and we only refuse to play it due to preference. Plus it allows anyone who plays it to constantly tell everyone around them that they're better, exalted creatures more enlightened than the people who don't like simplistic jobs and it's even tied to a job gauge! I know the randomized catchphrases would draw some flack, maybe a future update could put them on optional separate buttons.

Then we can have the dream: the Five Healer Model. The Pure Healer can be the absolute best one numbers-wise. The rest of us will have to brainstorm ideas for ruining the other four jobs with like, engagement and choices and too many buttons. Horrible, I know. But I'm willing to give it a shot.

Sarcasm aside I think i'ts a good idea minus the voice quotes etc, it would give you guys who just want complicated stuff your own class while leaving those of us who do want simplistic healing etc our own class, that still provides great dps. I think it's actually a good idea no cap, prob damage buff needs a tweak ofc.

[AnotherPerson]

Oh, come to think of it. I have a genie wish, but it's not exactly related to WHM. I'd want to create a brand new healer job. Not sure what I'd name it, maybe Pure Healer. It'd have maybe 2-4 GCD heals to cover single target and AOE. A Medica 2 equivalent for those who like regens. A Succor-like equivalent with a damage reduction for the mitigation aspect. The job gauge is called the Sanctimony meter. See, the job would have no damage buttons. Just a passive (or actively refreshed, I'm not picky) +50% damage buff to all party members. Instead it would have a spell that replaces all single-target and AOE damage abilities from healers with a GCD called "Don't be hyperbolic I'm not just pressing ONE button. There are several in this kit". It would be a unique ability, impossible to bind to the 1 key specifically so that when people accuse this healer of pressing 111111111 they can easily say "Nuh uh, don't be ridiculous. This spell is bound to 2."

I think it would make a lot of people happy. It'd be designated as the most powerful healer. It'd provide a job that doesn't do anything but heal. We horrible numbers-obsessed elitist optimizers would have to concede that it provides the strongest benefit and we only refuse to play it due to preference. Plus it allows anyone who plays it to constantly tell everyone around them that they're better, exalted creatures more enlightened than the people who don't like simplistic jobs and it's even tied to a job gauge! I know the randomized catchphrases would draw some flack, maybe a future update could put them on optional separate buttons.

Then we can have the dream: the Five Healer Model. The Pure Healer can be the absolute best one numbers-wise. The rest of us will have to brainstorm ideas for ruining the other four jobs with like, engagement and choices and too many buttons. Horrible, I know. But I'm willing to give it a shot.

*waits for someone to not realize this is spoken in sarcasm and agree, only for another person to call them out and destroy that dream simply with: "Solo instances that require player DPS in MSQ exist" and "You can't heal enemies to death even if you wanted to before the timer runs out in the MSQ".*

[ForsakenRoe]

*waits for someone to not realize this is spoken in sarcasm and agree, only for another person to call them out and destroy that dream simply with: "Solo instances that require player DPS in MSQ exist" and "You can't heal enemies to death even if you wanted to before the timer runs out in the MSQ".*

Nah, any solo instance which would otherwise force you to press a dirty damage button, SE can rework so that the enemy's will to fight is drained over time until they give up, because they realize that the Pure Healer was right all along. This wouldn't be damage over time though, it'd be more akin to a 'non-lethal boss fight completion' from MGS games, where you run them out of stamina gauge instead of health gauge. Or they get too old and die of old age, maybe that'd be more accurate here

[AFuzzyMu11in]

*waits for someone to not realize this is spoken in sarcasm and agree, only for another person to call them out and destroy that dream simply with: "Solo instances that require player DPS in MSQ exist" and "You can't heal enemies to death even if you wanted to before the timer runs out in the MSQ".*

I know it was sarcastic but I like the idea honestly. My job would be healing only, and dps is worried about by the team, I think a pure healer class that just heals while giving passive dps boosts would be interesting and definitely should be a thing. It's less stressful to worry about rotations, and you can just focus on what matters healing only. Maybe like if the class had no broil but a stronger Chain Strat, strategem and some copies of it with different names, that you had to time with raid cooldowns etc. It's a very interesting idea. Your main focus being healing and never worrying about dps.