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  1. #91
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Thats not an excuse in my eyes to just ignore the issues of the people paying to play your game. Lol. Especially with how low-quality Endwalker has been so far. All this game needs is a huge issue on the scale of WoW to occur and people will leave, if they haven't left already to wait out 7.0 in the hopes of change.
    A lot of people who left from WoW or other games and all went to FF either went back to wow or just stopped playing mmo's entirely, some stick to FF but the game in its actual state is an absolute bore, none of the systems are great. FF is a good game to chill in, but that's really it.

    PvE is terrible, the combat is horrible, boring. All the mechanics are taken from other tiers and replaced with a different appearance.

    PvP let's not even talk about it, not worth the time.

    Housing well yeah, not much to say, the system is absolutely horrible in every possible way.

    Islands were a big feature, and ended up as a failure for a lot of people because of how boring it is.

    The only thing that I personally find more fun in FF than WoW is professions, having actual spells, HQ etc is a lot more fun than just 1 button to craft something, but that's really all it has to it, and the fact it's more "chill".
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  2. #92
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Thats not an excuse in my eyes to just ignore the issues of the people paying to play your game. Lol. Especially with how low-quality Endwalker has been so far. All this game needs is a huge issue on the scale of WoW to occur and people will leave, if they haven't left already to wait out 7.0 in the hopes of change.
    You're not wrong and some people arent happy here with that (me included), but you've seen how rabid SE defenders get here /shrug
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  3. 10-05-2022 06:33 AM

  4. #93
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Such is the way of Budgetwalker
    You get today's internet giggle point. TY
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  5. #94
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    AlzabetSmallberries's Avatar
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    Alzabet Smallberries
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    Diabolos
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    Miner Lv 90
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    I wont lie, I did feel like my CHANCES were MUCH higher clicking placards vs lottery, simply because it was absolutely horrible & 90% of the player base did not want a house bad enough to subject themselves to the torture lolol

    I got my first house placard clicking. I clicked for days upon days upon days on many homes before finally winning one

    (the worst were the ones that you clicked for HOURS, then some GRRRbag would saunter up & buy a relocation, like right towards the end of prime clicking time /cry - at least they eventually got rid of relocations, that was simply cruelty to people who were trying to get their first house)

    Lottery it frustrating & disappointing week after week - i've been trying to upgrade to a med or large and honestly doubt it will EVER happen. They almost never are available to bid on in the first place, then when there are you're bidding against multiple hundreds of people.

    The Lottery system itself is not a horrible design, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
    The lack of housing IS poorly designed. There is just not nearly enough for the player base.

    then you wander through housing and SO many of them are empty or barely touched - which makes me so sad lol
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  6. #95
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    Missbone's Avatar
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Seriously, if you want a house that bad just make your own FC and switch servers. Chances are much better for FC owners and there are still a lot of servers with medium or less population which means there are even less people you need to competed with. Also a FC house is even better than personal because you can add a workshop and addional rooms (you need twinks for that.).

    I could have had a big FC house when the lottery started but i decided to stick with my small house. Simply because i put to much work in it and i like the way it looks. So instead furnishing a big mansions from the scratch i just bought some addional rooms with my alts
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    Last edited by Missbone; 10-05-2022 at 09:14 AM.

  7. #96
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    SweetestLily's Avatar
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    Darling Doll
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 100
    Both placard spam and lottery systems are bad. Trust me. You DO NOT want to sit there clicking a placard for a day to lose to someone who showed up 2 mins ago and got lucky. You think you're angry now, wait til you see THAT happen to you. The neighborhood housing system was scuffed since day one and a terrible idea. Cute in theory but come on, idk how they didn't see this coming. People have been begging for succor from this terrible housing situation for years and all they do are band aid "fixes" that only serve to anger people more. Instanced housing is the only solution. There is no other way. That or more than half of the playerbase has to come to terms that they will never own a house.
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  8. #97
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Listen, I know Lottery is far from perfect, but for the love of Edda: LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER

    From (re)reading your post, I doubt you even engaged with that system, so it's very likely you don't even know what you're talking about and are just spouting nonsense for the sake of angry ranting.
    Please don't do that. I'm very sorry that you can't get your house, and I hope that changes in the future, but do NOT act like clicking the placard was better, because it wasn't.

    I can't believe I have to post this every time someone has an issue with lottery.

    Yes, you're right about it being a flawed system

    But f*ck placard spam.
    Lottery was never designed to "fix housing." It was designed to stop placard spamming. Problem with placard spamming is that people had to do it for upwards of 23 hours. And we probably had a very high number of people using illegitimate means to continuously spam the placard. Lots of evidence of this was players continual targeting and untargeting the placard after it was already purchased. There'd be dozens of players still there doing it.

    Anyone that actually clicked a placard for 12+ would never say it was a superior method.

    You place the bid in a few day window. You go play the game (or go outside). You come back in a few days and get your refund. Or maybe in an amazing twist of fate, you actually win. This system is probably better than any system they had before. FCFS benefited those that could login at 5am on patch days and were lucky enough to get in the queue at the right time.

    I know this doesn't apply to all players, but I think greed took over for many players. Anyone that had no house during lottery #1 should have been going after the lowest bid plots, which were likely smalls in "lesser" locations. But, if they went for that cherry plot overlooking a garden with the marketboard nearby... that had 2x the number of bids than the lesser plot, then they just set themselves up for disappointment.
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  9. #98
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    Alzabet Smallberries
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    Diabolos
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    Nope here is my reason if you are going to be gone for let's say 3 months to 6 months you don't need a house period. Unless you are playing every single day then you have no reason to have one at all. Let the people who play every day have and those who disappear for months on end can own a apartment or something
    I *mostly* agree with you - but... for instance, I am planning a massive roadtrip this summer that is going to be about 3 months long. I'm huge into housing and clicked on god knows how many placards for god knows how many hours to acquire my first one, and got lucky on lottery to relocate to a new one... I do design in game & spend countless hours designing homes for others. I play daily, way too much actually- and a huge chunk of my gameplay revolves around housing/design.

    The fact that I'm going to be on a planned hiatus for 3 months, once, in years of playing - shouldn't mean i must forfeit my hard earned house - that is nearly impossible to replace once lost due to limited housing.

    If it wasnt a big deal to just win another one, i wouldnt mind forfeiting temporarily & just acquiring another when I return from my trip - but we know its not that easy

    Edit: spelling
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    Last edited by AlzabetSmallberries; 10-05-2022 at 12:23 PM.

  10. 10-05-2022 12:53 PM

  11. #99
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    Silver Ghost
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    But it never really bothered you from 2011 until 2022?
    I started fishing in 2022.
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  12. #100
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlzabetSmallberries View Post
    I *mostly* agree with you - but... for instance, I am planning a massive roadtrip this summer that is going to be about 3 months long. I'm huge into housing and clicked on god knows how many placards for god knows how many hours to acquire my first one, and got lucky on lottery to relocate to a new one... I do design in game & spend countless hours designing homes for others. I play daily, way too much actually- and a huge chunk of my gameplay revolves around housing/design.

    The fact that I'm going to be on a planned hiatus for 3 months, once, in years of playing - shouldn't mean i must forfeit my hard earned house - that is nearly impossible to replace once lost due to limited housing.

    If it wasnt a big deal to just win another one, i wouldnt mind forfeiting temporarily & just acquiring another when I return from my trip - but we know its not that easy

    Edit: spelling
    Personally, I think auto-demolition should not be a thing as long as the supply is low. Seems counter-intuitive. I'm ok with the idea of inactive players losing their house. However, when they come back, the housing should be there for them. For example, if I went on hiatus, I'd lose my medium. Back I could come back and get a small. Other players could pick up my medium. If that's the way it worked, I'd be all for it. But considering that losing your house essentially means "lose it forever" due to this arbitrary system... I don't think that's how it should be done.
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