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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverghost View Post
    I'd gladly sit outside a house for 14 hours clicking multiple times a week against 10 ppl over only getting one chance a week again 150 people.
    Listen, I know Lottery is far from perfect, but for the love of Edda: LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER

    From (re)reading your post, I doubt you even engaged with that system, so it's very likely you don't even know what you're talking about and are just spouting nonsense for the sake of angry ranting.
    Please don't do that. I'm very sorry that you can't get your house, and I hope that changes in the future, but do NOT act like clicking the placard was better, because it wasn't.

    I can't believe I have to post this every time someone has an issue with lottery.

    Yes, you're right about it being a flawed system

    But f*ck placard spam.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 10-02-2022 at 11:02 PM. Reason: Amending for misread post. See Shibi's post below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Did you ever engage with that horrendous system?
    Well, they do clearly say:

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverghost View Post
    I never needed/wanted a house until Endwalker and I so wish I tried before Endwalker
    So it's likely the engagement was minimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Well, they do clearly say:

    Silverghost: I never needed/wanted a house until Endwalker and I so wish I tried before Endwalker

    So it's likely the engagement was minimal.
    My bad, I'll amend my post. I misread as only "wanted a house until Endwalker"
    Good catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    But f*ck FCFS
    Placard camping is not FCFS.

    The first come first served system was the system where there was no hidden timer and no need to spam click for hours. The first person to click the placard as soon as it became available was given the option to purchase it as long as they met the requirements and had the gil. Several years ago Square implemented the hidden timer but FCFS was still used for brand new housing when the subdivisions were introduced and wards expanded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER
    This.

    As bad as the lottery system is, it's still better than placard spamming.
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    I wont lie, I did feel like my CHANCES were MUCH higher clicking placards vs lottery, simply because it was absolutely horrible & 90% of the player base did not want a house bad enough to subject themselves to the torture lolol

    I got my first house placard clicking. I clicked for days upon days upon days on many homes before finally winning one

    (the worst were the ones that you clicked for HOURS, then some GRRRbag would saunter up & buy a relocation, like right towards the end of prime clicking time /cry - at least they eventually got rid of relocations, that was simply cruelty to people who were trying to get their first house)

    Lottery it frustrating & disappointing week after week - i've been trying to upgrade to a med or large and honestly doubt it will EVER happen. They almost never are available to bid on in the first place, then when there are you're bidding against multiple hundreds of people.

    The Lottery system itself is not a horrible design, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
    The lack of housing IS poorly designed. There is just not nearly enough for the player base.

    then you wander through housing and SO many of them are empty or barely touched - which makes me so sad lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Listen, I know Lottery is far from perfect, but for the love of Edda: LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER

    From (re)reading your post, I doubt you even engaged with that system, so it's very likely you don't even know what you're talking about and are just spouting nonsense for the sake of angry ranting.
    Please don't do that. I'm very sorry that you can't get your house, and I hope that changes in the future, but do NOT act like clicking the placard was better, because it wasn't.

    I can't believe I have to post this every time someone has an issue with lottery.

    Yes, you're right about it being a flawed system

    But f*ck placard spam.
    Lottery was never designed to "fix housing." It was designed to stop placard spamming. Problem with placard spamming is that people had to do it for upwards of 23 hours. And we probably had a very high number of people using illegitimate means to continuously spam the placard. Lots of evidence of this was players continual targeting and untargeting the placard after it was already purchased. There'd be dozens of players still there doing it.

    Anyone that actually clicked a placard for 12+ would never say it was a superior method.

    You place the bid in a few day window. You go play the game (or go outside). You come back in a few days and get your refund. Or maybe in an amazing twist of fate, you actually win. This system is probably better than any system they had before. FCFS benefited those that could login at 5am on patch days and were lucky enough to get in the queue at the right time.

    I know this doesn't apply to all players, but I think greed took over for many players. Anyone that had no house during lottery #1 should have been going after the lowest bid plots, which were likely smalls in "lesser" locations. But, if they went for that cherry plot overlooking a garden with the marketboard nearby... that had 2x the number of bids than the lesser plot, then they just set themselves up for disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Listen, I know Lottery is far from perfect, but for the love of Edda: LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER

    From (re)reading your post, I doubt you even engaged with that system, so it's very likely you don't even know what you're talking about and are just spouting nonsense for the sake of angry ranting.
    Please don't do that. I'm very sorry that you can't get your house, and I hope that changes in the future, but do NOT act like clicking the placard was better, because it wasn't.

    I can't believe I have to post this every time someone has an issue with lottery.

    Yes, you're right about it being a flawed system

    But f*ck placard spam.
    Placard spam was abominable, it just encouraged bots. at least bots can't really ruin a lottery beyond making more accounts
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