Paladin Updates

[Phobos]

What I am saying is that while PLD and WAR may take roughly the same damage, PLD has more utility in being able to quickly get their HP back up, without the support of a mage if need be. Aegis Boon on a hard hitting, physical TP move can regain everything you've lost from the prior four moves, and still opens up enmity options.

I see what you're saying for a lot of this, I suppose I just have a lot less utility for Holy Succor because by the time I'm able to get it off, because of either interrupts or having to do something else first (healing is not my #1 priority since it's someone elses #1 priority) my WHM usually cures someone before I can. I'm typically only tanking if I'm on vent with my WHM friend, so communication isn't an issue it's really just more of the whole - WHM cure is guarunteed, PLD cure can be interrupted. He feels safer tossing a cure on one of the DD's or me while I'm curing the same target, so be it.

Either way, that all really boils down to playstyle. Perhaps if stoneskin had a friendlier recast, WHM's would be more apt to throw DD's some stoneskin more often to see if the PLD cures them.

As with your speculation, Divine Veil could also make Holy Succor much more useable as you can count on it not getting interrupted (or do shield blocks not do that?).

PLD being able to get it's HP up faster, though, is simply false. Second Wind is available to WAR but not PLD, and WAR can get two stalling moves to use while waiting for some more cures. PLD gets none of these.

[Alerith]

PLD being able to get it's HP up faster, though, is simply false. Second Wind is available to WAR but not PLD, and WAR can get two stalling moves to use while waiting for some more cures. PLD gets none of these.

As Firon just pointed out: Aegis Boon.

You can't use it as freely as you can Second Wind, but you can get a far larger return from Aegis Boon. As far as stalling is concerned, Shield Bash and Flash do just fine for the most part, and if you are in such a dire situation, you can still Bloodbath a high damage WS like Spirit's Within. Also, if you're tanking a single target, interrupts shouldn't be an issue.

As far as shield blocking preventing interrupts, I honestly don't know for XIV. It works that way in XI, but only after a patch that finally gave PLD Shield Mastery.

[Phobos]

As Firon just pointed out: Aegis Boon.

You can't use it as freely as you can Second Wind, but you can get a far larger return from Aegis Boon. As far as stalling is concerned, Shield Bash and Flash do just fine for the most part, and if you are in such a dire situation, you can still Bloodbath a high damage WS like Spirit's Within. Also, if you're tanking a single target, interrupts shouldn't be an issue.

As far as shield blocking preventing interrupts, I honestly don't know for XIV. It works that way in XI, but only after a patch that finally gave PLD Shield Mastery.

As for Aegis Boon, I still consider using it for enmity (allowing for War Drum, Phalanx>SW) and over-time healing than I do for "oh-shi" healing.

Boodbath also applies for WAR, but I know what you mean. I think my problem with Aegis and Bloodbath for that low HP save yourself situation they're just not as instantaneous. Someone can take hate after using Aegis, or something could use a magic attack killing you before curing you. Bloodbath requires fast usage, but the ability use locks you from using anything for near a second, which makes it tough to rely on.

I agree, interrupts aren't much of an issue (unless things get hectic and you start acting stupid) but they still exist. If you mistime something it can be tough. I think the problem here is with the fact that after taking 1-2 hits you need to be cured, so you need to be on your toes a lot where WAR with the larger HP pool doesn't need to be cured as frequently to be safe.

[Alerith]

Someone can take hate after using Aegis

I know I only quoted this little bit, but please don't feel that I'm ignoring the rest of your post.

Just in regards to this little bit, if you were to lose hate at such a bad time, it's the exact kind of situation you would use cover for. You shield your party member and still make use of Aegis Boon.

This is a nice little trick for triggering Phalanx/Spirit's Within if you have someone else tanking. Pop Aegis Boon, then cover the tank. You'll get the shield block and cure, then you can follow through with your Spirit's combo.