Get rid of SAM Limit break gimmick already (FL)

[Elfidan]

Please enlighten me with your great wisdom other then the don't use aoes part which I can understand thats alot to ask when there is so many people
where in my comment was invalid

I was going to type a book but IDC anymore

Again, you weren't asked to read the entire thread, but you are expected to at least read what you are responding to. You're sighting conflict which nobody here is talking about. The title is clearly relating to the issue of how it behaves in frontline. In conflict it isn't a problem because you can see limit gauges so making good choices is entirely on you. This is not the case in frontline, and you can get punished for playing despite not even targeting the samurai in question.

It's entirely obvious you don't care because you can't even be bothered to read a few sentences before whipping out a soap box. If your book is like your posts I wouldn't bother.

[Vatom]

Again, you weren't asked to read the entire thread, but you are expected to at least read what you are responding to. You're sighting conflict which nobody here is talking about.

Ok but still didn't get an answer

now you stated I didn't read

Every single SAM player in FL its dead weight against me, when their chitten buff expires they are basically a free kill, the issue with their gimmick play style its you get killed without even actually hitting them.

if they are just a kill when they don't have chiten and you want them to reveal chiten to make it easier hmmm how about (Paying attention might do you some good)also it already shows

I play a lot of BLM/MCH/DRG/RPR

I can sometimes understand BLM since its almost all AOE but DRG, MCH, RPR that's your fault can't tell me you don't see the SAM(Any mit before they LB does work other then Guard,CC any cc other then heavy, and distance)

In conflict it isn't a problem because you can see limit gauges so making good choices is entirely on you. This is not the case in frontline, and you can get punished for playing despite not even targeting the samurai in question.

Accountability is all I ask

for example as MCH I cannot cancel my auto attacks, if a SAM cast his chitten my auto-attack will hit him no matter what I do.

You single targeted and your complaining that you got tagged... maybe thats a MCH problem (It comes every like 1min and 30s maybe time to be aware)

I wouldn't call a LB that one shot everyone in sight without any realistic counterplay ( Guard doesnt work, cannot debuff Kazushi, nothing works against it unless you are a DRK/PLD with limit break up) useless, maybe in CC but because you don't have to deal with other 48 players on screen.

But no counter play

Look at BLM's when they cast LB, they glow like lighthouse for a whole minute.

If sam glows a melee he will die 100% of the time also chiten isn't a LB so those two don't equate

It's entirely obvious you don't care because you can't even be bothered to read a few sentences before whipping out a soap box. If your book is like your posts I wouldn't bother.

Why should I you just shot insults
As for soapbox you guys tend to be on it alot more then me
first SAM Then SUM then MCH then PLD now back to SAM oh lets keep the trend going plz
See your not complaining about being hit with a gimmick your complaining that you keep falling for it like a 10 year old getting low kicked all the time in MK and don't know how to jump

[Kansene]

See your not complaining about being hit with a gimmick your complaining that you keep falling for it like a 10 year old getting low kicked all the time in MK and don't know how to jump

The issue that most people in this thread have can be very neatly summed up in one sentence:

It's not engaging gameplay to constantly and carefully look through a horde of up to 48 enemy players on the off-chance that one of them will suddenly oneshot you if you do anything near them.

[Vatom]

The issue that most people in this thread have can be very neatly summed up in one sentence:

It's not engaging gameplay to constantly and carefully look through a horde of up to 48 enemy players on the off-chance that one of them will suddenly oneshot you if you do anything near them.

I appreciate the response if this was a bit earlier I would debate you on this but now I'm done go ahead I wont fight anymore
this was simply a reply and I am aware of the issue at hand

[AnnRam]

if they are just a kill when they don't have chiten and you want them to reveal chiten to make it easier hmmm how about (Paying attention might do you some good)also it already shows

Because they are actually a free kill when they have Chiten on CD, SAM in Frontlines is probably the worst melee job outside of Chiten+LB, they aren't a threat unlike others melee jobs (NIN/MNK/RPR/DRG)

I can sometimes understand BLM since its almost all AOE but DRG, MCH, RPR that's your fault can't tell me you don't see the SAM(Any mit before they LB does work other then Guard,CC any cc other then heavy, and distance)

Yeah I def should stop engaging the enemy team in my face and confirm that every single SAM in the battlefield have no Chiten up before I dare to press any skill.

DRG have 4 skills (LB included) that deal DMG in aoe, so you are suggesting me that I shouldn't use any of them when a few SAM'S with their group are contesting nodes/ovos ? are you out of your mind?

Distance? Ok let's recap every DRG range skill vs Zantetsuken (Range 20 yards/ Radius 5 yards)

Geirskogul = Range 15 yards. Can you escape from Zantetsuken ? Nope, the SAM will get you even if you move backwards.
Horrid Roar = Range 0 yards. Can you escape from Zantetsuken? Nope, the SAM will get you even if you cast Elusive Jump (15 yalms behind you)
Wyrmwind Thrust = Range 20yards. Can you escape from Zantetsuken. Nope you are still in range of it.

So tell me how poking for X damage a SAM means you should instantly die after? Zantetsuken its an AOE limit break meaning that you are killing people that you aren't even aiming for.

You single targeted and your complaining that you got tagged... maybe thats a MCH problem (It comes every like 1min and 30s maybe time to be aware)

Duh because Blast Charge has 1.44second cast time and it cannot be interrupted vs Instant cast Chiten.

But no counter play

Exactly no counter play, no other Limit break deletes you instantly at full HP even with guard/defensive skills etc just because you missclicked or your AOE poked a target you didn't want to hit on first place.

If sam glows a melee he will die 100% of the time also chiten isn't a LB so those two don't equatey

And that would be a good thing because Chiten+LB > BLM LB at any point of the match, BLM dies so fast that they cannot make a single mistake.

[Vatom]

Too easy I'm not gonna bite
The last reply wasn't exactly for you
you were just an example
but you can continue

[Towa-Musa]

Too easy I'm not gonna bite
The last reply wasn't exactly for you
you were just an example
but you can continue

Dude shut up, you are just as bad as ransu when it comes to disagreeing with people. **hur dur** you're bad because of *insert stupid reason here*

[Vatom]

Dude shut up, you are just as bad as ransu when it comes to disagreeing with people. **hur dur** you're bad because of *insert stupid reason here*

Oh Im sorry was this suppose to mean something
I had left this chat weeks ago why are you talking to me now
Then insult me bravo we devolve quickly if we get emotionally charged from this
If you want to continue this state your argument

[Nikoto]

Oh Im sorry was this suppose to mean something
I had left this chat weeks ago why are you talking to me now
Then insult me bravo we devolve quickly if we get emotionally charged from this
If you want to continue this state your argument

Pot calling the kettle black.