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  1. #121
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Seems like Island Sanctuary is actually this xpac's replacement for field ops (eureka, bozja). Like those, it's an open zone that you access via an npc and it has a duty-specific HUD to track your rank and stuff. Unlike those, it's gathering and crafting rather than battle content, but a baby version of those things that doesn't use doh/dol classes and mostly does stuff automatically.

    Maybe they made the mistake of thinking a lack of manual activities would make it relaxing, but it actually feels more a waste of time and lonely. Maybe it will make more sense when they add more layers to it? Eureka began very unpopular, but some people liked it after pagos. I don't know what could make Island Sanctuary into something enjoyable unless they allow more customisation akin to housing or some casual minigames.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I don't know what could make Island Sanctuary into something enjoyable unless they allow more customisation akin to housing or some casual minigames.
    I feel like the mammet factory thing is directly taking up data storage that they could have used on making the island itself more customisable. The spreadsheet has the capacity to remember what we have placed in at least six production slots per day (up to 24 depending on how it's structured) multiplied by ten days and three workshops, so at absolute minimum that must be 180 things it can remember at any one time, with over 50 possibilities per slot.

    Just imagine if we had even a fraction of that dedicated to individual decor choices instead! We could choose colours for the house, and even if they were just fixed slots, choose decorative objects to place around the room (if only they hadn't taken up most of the space with a shop). Choose our bed, choose the table and chairs and hammock seat and some garden elements around the house.

    In short, we could have had a customisable building instead of a customisable production schedule making intangible items we don't get to keep.
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  3. #123
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I feel like the mammet factory thing is directly taking up data storage that they could have used on making the island itself more customisable. The spreadsheet has the capacity to remember what we have placed in at least six production slots per day (up to 24 depending on how it's structured) multiplied by ten days and three workshops, so at absolute minimum that must be 180 things it can remember at any one time, with over 50 possibilities per slot.

    Just imagine if we had even a fraction of that dedicated to individual decor choices instead! We could choose colours for the house, and even if they were just fixed slots, choose decorative objects to place around the room (if only they hadn't taken up most of the space with a shop). Choose our bed, choose the table and chairs and hammock seat and some garden elements around the house.

    In short, we could have had a customisable building instead of a customisable production schedule making intangible items we don't get to keep.
    There's a big difference between data that's processed in the background and more assets that are rendered on site. You can't just trade one for the other. Customization is likely to remain as limited and static as it is here.

    As far as buildings go, Yoshi-P confirmed we're getting more.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    These two statements contradict each other. Basically I'm free to say what I want so long as it lines up with whatever you like or I should leave, because the things I say cut through all the fluff and upset people. Sorry but that's not how this works. This game didn't need Island Sanctuary as it stands now, if they were going to do something like this they should've gone all out instead of what, from my perspective, appears to fall short of the basics for this sort of content/gameplay.
    No they dont really contradict each other. You as a customers are allowed to voice your opinions. Maybe some of the ideas posted may even influence futher products or in the case of ongoing games, future patches. But that does not mean that the producers or devs have to give up their direction of their product just because a customer said so.

    If I create a meat free burger and your feedback is that it would be better with meat than its in your right to do. But that does not mean that I have to follow that. Instead I might still focus on my direction while you as the customer is free to go somewhere where they have the burger of your dream.

    And again why should your opinion mean more than others? (Have you finally done island sancturary? Since you have wrote in another thread that you only got your opinions throught other people) I like Island sancturary as it got released. I believe that a way more complex system is asking for way too much for something that is bascially a very small part of the game. If it gets better and better in the future great, if not, I still got my enjoyment out of it. So is my opinion worth less than yours? Should they only listen to you?

    Also you are not painted as a bad guy because you want more...but if you make statements like only the players should now decide and other stuff, you will come off as unreasonable. In the end if you (after all the complaining) still give them a monthly subscription and only log in once every two week, they did everything right. Still got your money after all.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 09-29-2022 at 09:33 PM.

  5. #125
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    Just read OP and nothing else...

    If IS was time gated, we would've had a much different (and much more heated) set of complaints. The argument that there should've been more to do on release is basically thing that could be said out of any content that limited or no time gated construct.

    So I'm just gonna call this bad faith argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    And again why should your opinion mean more than others? (Have you finally done island sancturary? Since you have wrote in another thread that you only got your opinions throught other people) I like Island sancturary as it got released. I believe that a way more complex system is asking for way too much for something that is bascially a very small part of the game. If it gets better and better in the future great, if not, I still got my enjoyment out of it. So is my opinion worth less than yours? Should they only listen to you?

    Also you are not painted as a bad guy because you want more...but if you make statements like only the players should now decide and other stuff, you will come off as unreasonable. In the end if you (after all the complaining) still give them a monthly subscription and only log in once every two week, they did everything right. Still got your money after all.
    Glancing over their characters, it doesn't even look like they engage in crafting much. It's purely adventure, never getting all of them (and not a single blue mage either). Island Sanctuary is clearly not for them. This makes the commentary even more disingenuous.
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  7. #127
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    Last thing I did was collect all the rare animals. This site: https://www.thonky.com/final-fantasy...animal-tracker was the most help, since it predicts when the windows will be up based on time and weather.
    Pretty much done with it now.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    Just imagine if we had even a fraction of that dedicated to individual decor choices instead! We could choose colours for the house, and even if they were just fixed slots, choose decorative objects to place around the room (if only they hadn't taken up most of the space with a shop). Choose our bed, choose the table and chairs and hammock seat and some garden elements around the house.

    In short, we could have had a customisable building instead of a customisable production schedule making intangible items we don't get to keep.
    This wouldn't work for me, since I can't stand being in the buildings because my camera constantly gets blocked by the structure.
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  9. #129
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Hell I WISH the island was more automated. As it stands I'd need to chop about 160 trees just to be set for the next week. The granaries don't bring back nearly enough of the materials to keep up.

    And ultimately I'm not gonna spend 20 minutes gathering island materials when I can go do actual gathering and get something useful. So it's pretty much dead content.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    So far the only negative feedback I have seen has been...here. The people I talk to are enjoying it...as for new content, that will be coming as Yoshi has said the island will be added to, patch by patch.

    So no there IS no "overwhelming negative feedback".
    I dont think you and I play the same game, everyone in game is absolutely bored of it
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