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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    It also results in surplus Island Greenfeed crafted only using Cabbages/Pumpkins as they have the lowest Export value at 4 Blues.
    It really doesn't matter what you grow for crafting feed, so long as you got the seeds for free. If you're not exporting them then they have the same value of "two days of growing time" regardless of what you use.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Because they decided it would be a good addition to their theme park MMO as something different?
    Sense this is a theme park MMO I demand less combat content then. That trash gets in the way of me experiencing the wonderful Island Sanctuary.
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  3. #113
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    Someone who only needs the apples for the Pickled Radish recipe will probably get enough from the foraging mammets if they're using them.

    I like picking the apples myself why take the fun out of the island? I like the picturesque scenery of the island and love to be there enjoying the atmosphere. I want to make 17k a week cowries consistently and to do that you have to play the workshop everyday and change the plan when demand changes.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I think it's time for the player's perspective to be considered first and foremost before any dev's.
    So which perspective should be used then? Yours? Mine?
    Ask 100 players and each will have a different view on what their perfect content will be. Good luck making something that will make a lot of us happy then.

    Also this is still their game. Their ideas and their content. And they give us the possibility to enjoy said content by paying for it. We can (and should) comment on it and say what we like and dislike. But if its just not something you like then simply stop paying them and move on.

    If the new iPhone is not to your liking and does not have the functions you want you can either still buy it or just try out another phone which fits your view better.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    We can (and should) comment on it and say what we like and dislike. But if its just not something you like then simply stop paying them and move on.
    These two statements contradict each other. Basically I'm free to say what I want so long as it lines up with whatever you like or I should leave, because the things I say cut through all the fluff and upset people. Sorry but that's not how this works. This game didn't need Island Sanctuary as it stands now, if they were going to do something like this they should've gone all out instead of what, from my perspective, appears to fall short of the basics for this sort of content/gameplay.

    We would've been better served by every resource that went into this island being re-allocated to instanced housing, or an actual Animal Crossing mode replete with NPCs to live on our island, ways to attack and farm mobs in optional hidden areas, greater liberty with where we can put our buildings, the ability to use furnishings, and customizable biomes.

    You lose nothing by asking for more, except being painted as the bad guy for doing so because some players on here don't have an accurate grasp on the nature of the business relationship at work here. I'm not interested in protecting anyone's feelings at this point because 10 years worth of goodwill was destroyed over the past 10 months. They need to do better. As far as I'm concerned FFXIV is a once-every-two-weeks login where I zone into Sharlayan, click to turn in 100 leves and then log out. Bereft of content and with a story up in the air, this game's future has never been in a more perilous state. The WoW population boost came and went, and people are only leaving instead of joining these days because there's nothing left to hold on to. This shouldn't have been the case, and there's no defending it.

    Not fleshed out enough to be a single-player RPG, not enough current content worth doing for an MMORPG, and a farming sim mode that lacks the stuff people like in those games. Spread themselves too thin trying to appease everyone, now no one wins. I hope that whatever direction this game is heading in becomes clear in the upcoming Live Letter, but can't say my expectations are too high these days.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Someone who only needs the apples for the Pickled Radish recipe will probably get enough from the foraging mammets if they're using them.

    I like picking the apples myself why take the fun out of the island? I like the picturesque scenery of the island and love to be there enjoying the atmosphere. I want to make 17k a week cowries consistently and to do that you have to play the workshop everyday and change the plan when demand changes.
    By all means, pick the apples yourself if you're enjoying the activity.

    The poster I was replying to said they don't enjoy it so I was pointing out an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    These two statements contradict each other. Basically I'm free to say what I want so long as it lines up with whatever you like or I should leave, because the things I say cut through all the fluff and upset people.
    The statements didn't contradict each other. One addressed feedback. The addressed whether or not you (or anyone else) should pay for something you don't like.

    The things you say are your opinions, which not everyone agrees with. The things we say are our opinions, which you and others may not agree with.

    That's all it is - opinions.

    It's up to you do decide if your money is well spent on this game. You sound really unhappy, which is why we question why you keep playing.

    Perhaps we're mistaken and you're really enjoying yourself immensely.

    But there's no use trying to recapture the past. It is gone and can't return. The magic of all the excitement and wonder and sense of adventure that comes when you play a game for the first time cannot be recaptured in that same game after years of playing it.

    You can adapt and enjoy a game for what it's become. Or you can seek out new games that will have a new magic for you.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-29-2022 at 06:29 AM.

  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurohNeko View Post
    So I got the IS motorcycle and am island level 10... Now what?
    Do something else till it's updated. That's what I'm doing.
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  8. #118
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    We're all allowed to share our thoughts and opinions about this game. The problem is when people start believing their opinions to be indisputable fact.

    I have a lot of opinions about this game of aspects I wish this game had (such as bringing back cross-class skills, elemental resistances, make the game less about rotations and more tactical rpg combat with useful debuffs etc) but Im self-aware that a lot of them arent well thought out or my ideas would probably not go well with the design of the game that makes current FFXIV well received and popular amongst the other titans of the genre.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I thought in general the garden plots were basically just mean to provide food for the pasture. Most of the big cowrie makers use pasture items, not veggies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It really doesn't matter what you grow for crafting feed, so long as you got the seeds for free. If you're not exporting them then they have the same value of "two days of growing time" regardless of what you use.
    After the weekly workshop craft softcaps have been met. The workshop crowrie income dwarfs any other source of crowrie income.

    But once you've made your big Blue shekels from the workshop for the week,what else are you going to do with surplus crops/leavings besides Export or stockpile?

    Crops/Leavings cap at 999
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 09-29-2022 at 08:40 AM.

  10. #120
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    With the overwhelming negative feedback towards the IS, that would be a pretty boneheaded move on their part.
    So far the only negative feedback I have seen has been...here. The people I talk to are enjoying it...as for new content, that will be coming as Yoshi has said the island will be added to, patch by patch.

    So no there IS no "overwhelming negative feedback".
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