Paladin Updates

[Akumu]

Antagonize, Sentinel, Provoke, Flash and using Vengeance before first swing on you grabs more.

and lets not forget collusion when someone drops a bomb on the mob.

[Mister-Wonderful]

Antagonize, Sentinel, Provoke, Flash and using Vengeance before first swing on you grabs more.

Vengeance would return rather low damage to the enemy until your initial buffs wore off, especially stoneskin.

[Ambuter]

Just think about Antagonize, Sentinel, and Vengeance... Massive hate for all skills plus Vengeancing Chimera for 300dmg each time it swings at you? ~1k DMG just from vengeance and that's without voke/flash

[Peptaru]

From what I was seeing having sentinel up didn't hurt the returned dmg of vengeance, maybe they'll patch that.

[Treach]

War and Pld don't have to fight to tank, Warrior can AoE tank, Pld can single target tank and there is no need for hostility. L2Share! This shouldn't keep people from trying to tank piles on Pld, nor keep them from tankin singles on War. Play what you like, even if people feel the other might be better in whatever situation you find yourself in.

Exactly, play what you want, just don't "intentionally" post false biased information to confuse or mislead other players.

[Treach]

Actually vengeance is probably bugged lol, does full return damage on parry, stoneskin and sentinel.

[Lux_Rayna]

Just think about Antagonize, Sentinel, and Vengeance... Massive hate for all skills plus Vengeancing Chimera for 300dmg each time it swings at you? ~1k DMG just from vengeance and that's without voke/flash

Are we factoring in Cure/Cura/Holy Succors/Blocks/other shizz into this enmity pissing contest? Just asking. Cuz I've been reading rather simple trains of thought, that fail to take into account all the variables.

[Ambuter]

From what I was seeing having sentinel up didn't hurt the returned dmg of vengeance, maybe they'll patch that.

I've noticed this as well. Even with Sent/Rampart up Vengeance dmg seems pretty constant.

[Masamune1004]

yeah for real lol when Fist of wind is up on mnk only time i evade is with feather foot still lol

Fists of Wind doesn't increase evasion, it increases movement speed and reduces weaponskill recast times.

[Firon]

It grabs so much hate when you have only 1 mob to worry about. Multiple mobs it doesn't always work out as it would seem on paper. WAR strength plus their abilities allow them to hold mobs like a beast. A PLD has to stay on edge to maintain his threat.

If you think a PLD is on par with a WAR in HATE control you must be in denial. I love my PLD but I'm not going to pretend like a WAR will not do better than me on the battlefield.

Def not in denial I played with a few wars today i can say this Decent pld is on par with a good war for single target tanking, Wars are not built to be the best tanks but they do really well if the players knows what they are doing. I ran into a lot of bad war tanks today doing ifrit cause them holding hate vs 1 mob is on par with a decent pld.