Paladin Updates

[Peptaru]

War and Pld don't have to fight to tank, Warrior can AoE tank, Pld can single target tank and there is no need for hostility. L2Share! This shouldn't keep people from trying to tank piles on Pld, nor keep them from tankin singles on War. Play what you like, even if people feel the other might be better in whatever situation you find yourself in.

[Treach]

War and Pld don't have to fight to tank, Warrior can AoE tank, Pld can single target tank and there is no need for hostility. L2Share! This shouldn't keep people from trying to tank piles on Pld, nor keep them from tankin singles on War. Play what you like, even if people feel the other might be better in whatever situation you find yourself in.

Exactly, play what you want, just don't "intentionally" post false biased information to confuse or mislead other players.

[Akumu]

Exactly, play what you want, just don't "intentionally" post false biased information to confuse or mislead other players.

Play what you want is great until you notice no matter how skilled you are with that job another is better. I'm not saying WAR should be nerfed but PLD is behind it in almost every regard.

If PLD is a single target tank than it should be better than WAR at that, not worst or equal.

[Treach]

Actually vengeance is probably bugged lol, does full return damage on parry, stoneskin and sentinel.

[Alerith]

You can already do the Riot Blade combo, even if you have hate. Disengage your lock on and run THROUGH your target. Then just use Riot Blade. Your character will automatically face your target so you don't have to manually turn around, and the delay in the enemy turning is great enough so that you get the "From the rear" status.

Then use Aegis Boon. Then Rage of Halone. By that time you should have intercepted a melee attack or TP move, so use Phalanx, then Bloodbath, then Spirit's Within.

This is easier obtained with the BRD TP song, but not impossible without.

[Ambuter]

Just think about Antagonize, Sentinel, and Vengeance... Massive hate for all skills plus Vengeancing Chimera for 300dmg each time it swings at you? ~1k DMG just from vengeance and that's without voke/flash

[Lux_Rayna]

Just think about Antagonize, Sentinel, and Vengeance... Massive hate for all skills plus Vengeancing Chimera for 300dmg each time it swings at you? ~1k DMG just from vengeance and that's without voke/flash

Are we factoring in Cure/Cura/Holy Succors/Blocks/other shizz into this enmity pissing contest? Just asking. Cuz I've been reading rather simple trains of thought, that fail to take into account all the variables.

[Peptaru]

From what I was seeing having sentinel up didn't hurt the returned dmg of vengeance, maybe they'll patch that.

[Ambuter]

From what I was seeing having sentinel up didn't hurt the returned dmg of vengeance, maybe they'll patch that.

I've noticed this as well. Even with Sent/Rampart up Vengeance dmg seems pretty constant.

[Sol_Aureus]

PLD needs more overall mitigation.

The biggest problem is that MRD's HP far outperforms a PLD's defense. PLD should have MUCH higher damage mitigation on everything. If a move takes a Marauder's HP down to 30% of his max, then the same move should not take a PLD below 35% of his max. The entire point of PLDs is to have a solid tank who sacrifices damage output for damage mitigation. As it is now, Marauders will still outperform PLDs because there's no change in PLD's base mitigations so stuff like Glower will be much more dangerous to a PLD than it will be to a MRD. MRD's tank better than a class whose only purpose is to be a tank. MRD's extra damage output is just icing on the cake making PLD seem even less useful.