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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    I feel like Queen should be MCH's support, in a fashion. Buffs everybody else's damage by a small amount (like 2%) while out, and Queen itself does guaranteed DH Crits (boosting MCH's damage). Make it so Queen's damage is also calculated into Wildfire's damage. Boom, would likely fix MCH overall...at first glance anyway, I'm not a number cruncher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I feel like Queen should be MCH's support, in a fashion. Buffs everybody else's damage by a small amount (like 2%) while out, and Queen itself does guaranteed DH Crits (boosting MCH's damage). Make it so Queen's damage is also calculated into Wildfire's damage. Boom, would likely fix MCH overall...at first glance anyway, I'm not a number cruncher.
    Making its punch accounted in Wildfire damage is terrible as you would need very good timing to sync the Queen, your Hypercharge and the Wildfire.
    You wouldn't fix MCH but make it ridiculously difficult to optimize.

    There's another problem with the buff idea:
    Since AQ is set to 15 seconds, you would just summon it at soon as you reach 50 battery just to have 2% damage buff every 30 seconds for 15 seconds.
    A party buff would be much more valuable than AQ own damage.

    In short, both changes are incompatible.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Making its punch accounted in Wildfire damage is terrible as you would need very good timing to sync the Queen, your Hypercharge and the Wildfire.
    You wouldn't fix MCH but make it ridiculously difficult to optimize.

    There's another problem with the buff idea:
    Since AQ is set to 15 seconds, you would just summon it at soon as you reach 50 battery just to have 2% damage buff every 30 seconds for 15 seconds.
    A party buff would be much more valuable than AQ own damage.

    In short, both changes are incompatible.
    Well what can be done then that won't require a complete rework of MCH? Because it can't stay how it is until 7.0, we all know that. I don't like feeling that the MCH in my group is holding us back by existing there, especially when I played DNC all of SB and through the first tier of EW (meaning I KNOW what the bottom DPS looks like, it feels better when you're buffing others).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Well what can be done then that won't require a complete rework of MCH? Because it can't stay how it is until 7.0, we all know that.
    Adjust an ability already on the 2 minute burst, like wildfire. As people are suggesting.
    Even an ability that IS used on cool down (Chainsaw, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Well what can be done then that won't require a complete rework of MCH? Because it can't stay how it is until 7.0, we all know that. I don't like feeling that the MCH in my group is holding us back by existing there, especially when I played DNC all of SB and through the first tier of EW (meaning I KNOW what the bottom DPS looks like, it feels better when you're buffing others).
    The Automaton Queen is doomed since EW, Crown Collider was a terrible mistakes that extended the AQ duration for nothing but troubles.
    As of now, MCH will never shine. Due to its "pure ranged DPS" status, it will always be broken or in the gutter.

    They can't add new abilities or mechanics to MCH before 7.0 but they can help for a few things.
    Namely Widlfire and Barrel Stabilizer clogging the 2 minutes and reducing the Chain saw fall off to make MCH shines a bit better against multiple targets.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    The Automaton Queen is doomed since EW, Crown Collider was a terrible mistakes that extended the AQ duration for nothing but troubles.
    As of now, MCH will never shine. Due to its "pure ranged DPS" status, it will always be broken or in the gutter.

    They can't add new abilities or mechanics to MCH before 7.0 but they can help for a few things.
    Namely Widlfire and Barrel Stabilizer clogging the 2 minutes and reducing the Chain saw fall off to make MCH shines a bit better against multiple targets.
    But how does reducing the Chain Saw fall off help it in raid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    But how does reducing the Chain Saw fall off help it in raid?
    Criterion dungeon and ultimate, possibly add phase such as P3S.
    Dancer and Bard are very strong in their own aoe game which makes them shine like crazy when there's two targets.
    On top of that, their skills fires a straight line or damage around them, making them naturally cleave their surroundings.

    MCH on the other hand is much more limited, Ricochet is locked on target and Bio blaster is barely worth on 2 targets.

    It's only going to help MCH in certain content but it's exactly where it needs the most attention at the moment.
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