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  1. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    ???
    That's an awful lot of word salad to defend someone who comes up with gems like "Y'shtola should be nicer to Magnai because she's a 3 and he's an 8", "G'raha Tia is a demon who terrorises the WoL with his attempts at seduction" and "why can't women have long hair to make their emotional journey more compelling."

    I don't know how any of what you said is supposed to relate to my post, but Magnai is an overbearing, deluded, obnoxious narcissist proclaiming to a complete stranger he just met that she is his long-awaited, fated mystical lover. If anything, Y'shtola was too nice about it.
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  2. #332
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    So? He is literally NOT being silenced. You are not entitled to people agreeing with you. You guys always try to claim to be silenced when people disagree with you but it's an absurd claim because you literally aren't. So long as you're not breaking the rules you aren't gonna be silenced.
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You said it means nothing, but yet continue to use it, and to describe people.
    What you are seeing is straight out of Orwell's Principles of Newspeak, the appendix to 1984.
    By inventing words (or redefining existing words) to have no meaning, the words can mean whatever the speaker want, including having a different meaning later as convenience demands. "Troll," "fascist," "hate," "racist," and even a word as basic as "woman" are all suffering from this treatment these days, among others.

    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    So? He is literally NOT being silenced.
    True, but that doesn't mean people aren't trying to get him silenced, such as by provoking him in the hope he will respond with something that will get him suspended to banned.

    Later:
    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    recently there has been a push for a new definition of the word 'hate'. This definition was pushed by both the Lyth defense squad and Silverbane herself. The definition they choose to create essentially was this: "A hater is anyone who disagrees with me, or disagrees with what I'm doing"..
    This is, of course, an outright lie, as I've come to expect from SentioftheHoukai's fellow forum stalker AwesomeJr44. As far as I know, the only one who ever has promulgated that definition is AwesomeJr44, as a text search of the forums would no doubt demonstrate -- should anyone give AwesomeJr4 that tiny bit of credibility that would justify making such a search. I won't hold my breath.

    I consider you a hater, AwesomeJr44, because you exhibit hatred, fullstop.
    Your outright and provable lies about what other people have posted is one of those exhibits.
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 09-22-2022 at 08:58 AM.

  4. #334
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    That's an awful lot of word salad to defend someone who comes up with gems like "Y'shtola should be nicer to Magnai because she's a 3 and he's an 8", "G'raha Tia is a demon who terrorises the WoL with his attempts at seduction" and "why can't women have long hair to make their emotional journey more compelling."
    The guy just wants his strangely erotic 90's heroic fantasy, which is full of extremely dated archetypes. Those are absurd takes, but the calls of misogyny and homophobia (?) are taking it too far in my opinion.

    This really is not what's happening here, and it's a little facetious to pretend it is. Let's be honest now.
    I honestly don't see it the way you do. Maybe I'm naive here, but by reading a lot of his posts in the many threads he made I don't see bigotry, just someone who's in love with an incredibly specific and dated idea of fiction.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 09-22-2022 at 08:41 AM.

  5. #335
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    What you are seeing is straight out of Orwell's Principles of Newspeak, the appendix to 1984.
    By inventing words (or redefining existing words) to have no meaning, the words can mean whatever the speaker want, including having a different meaning later as convenience demands. "Troll," "fascist," "hate," "racist," and even a word as basic as "woman" are all suffering from this treatment these days, among others.
    ...........still literally doesn't answer the question.


    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    True, but that doesn't mean people aren't trying to get him silenced, such as by provoking him in the hope he will respond with something that will get him suspended to banned.
    Thats....silly
    The only reason Aveyond would get himself Suspended or Banned is his own doing. Looking at how he words his posts, I have extreme doubt he would ever say anything that would get himself in trouble, much less anybody could get him to. If he is able to skirt around and ignore questions...heck outright block and hide questions (if that what the ignore button really does) nobody is gonna make him do anything.
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    uh, you ah, you okay?
    I really don't think they are. I hope they get better once they stop hate reading the forums, because it's really not good for anyone's mental health to be that bitter about online interactions.
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  7. #337
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Thats....silly
    The only reason Aveyond would get himself Suspended or Banned is his own doing. Looking at how he words his posts, I have extreme doubt he would ever say anything that would get himself in trouble, much less anybody could get him to. If he is able to skirt around and ignore questions...heck outright block and hide questions (if that what the ignore button really does) nobody is gonna make him do anything.
    I'll defer to you on this with regard to Aveyond, but other people may not have recognized his cleverness in this regard.

    However, I respectfully submit that trying to provoke people into getting themselves banned is a tactic that sometimes works, and some of the posters in this forum seem to have nothing better to do with their time and 20-post daily limit.
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  8. #338
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    I Feel like I got lumped into something I wasn't even apart of.....end of the day Ive come out of this today nothing but confused.
    But, it sounds like that was the point. Me trying to understand it and make sense was all part of the game. What it accomplished...guess Ill never know.
    GG I guess?....
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  9. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You said it means nothing, but yet continue to use it, and to describe people.
    So what does it mean, and what is a Zodiark Trancer?
    Id love to understand these labels, or your posts in general.
    The only times I've seen the phrase "Zodiark Trancer" being used here, it's the anti-Hydaelyn faction claiming it's an insulting label "the other side" uses against them. I am yet to see it actually used as an insult.

    Fora (alternate plural for "forums", I assume) knights seem to be anyone who disagrees with them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I Feel like I got lumped into something I wasn't even apart of.....end of the day Ive come out of this today nothing but confused.
    But, it sounds like that was the point. Me trying to understand it and make sense was all part of the game. What it accomplished...guess Ill never know.
    GG I guess?....
    Do you post on the lore forum? It's all the same torrent of bitterness there, just with different targets, and it seems they've mentally grouped people who disagree with them there and here into one big force against them.
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  10. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's all the same torrent of bitterness there, just with different targets, and it seems they've mentally grouped people who disagree with them there and here into one big force against them.
    Personally, I aspire (imperfectly of course) to disagree with what people post, as opposed to disagreeing with the people per se.
    However, I don't think everyone shares that aspiration.
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