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Thread: New Caster

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    New Caster

    I know more than likely we are getting a new caster for 7.0 expansion. I really hope it’s geomancer. I’ve wanted that job every since they teased it in SB. I knew it wouldn’t work as healer because they always did damage in previous final fantasy games and it would sorta step on Whm since they to well had elemental magic. So here’s to hoping.
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    Personally I really want a spellblade enspeller Mystic Knight. Ideally as a tank, but I'd take it as DPS, too. Since RDM is more cast based, I'd like this guy to be melee focused. I want his rotation to be using Enfire, Enblizzard and Enthunder then releasing a big attack very similar to SAM Midare of combining all three elements. Honestly I'd love a copy and paste of SAM, put in Mystic Knight aesthetics instead, lower potencies and add utility.

    Of course, GEO makes a lot of sense and would be awesome as well. MTK spellblade enspeller is just my favorite job in all of FF.
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    Damn I wish we got Mystic Knight, or call it Judge and mix the influence with Gabranth or something.
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    Tearagi Eruzure
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    No gimmicks please, just an honest to god caster that hard-casts spells. Preferably with DoTs.
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Necromancer DoT caster. Hardcast big hitter spells whether it's casting a big hit or a channeled spell that DoT ticks every second. Instant cast spells for double the damage and mana with a Dark Arts mechanic similar to HW DRK Dark Arts or Sage Eukrasia. No Raid buffs. No Utilities. Just pure damage. We need a caster to rival Black Mage.

    Preferably OG Summoner DoT playstyle with a lot of extra stuff.

    Make DoT ticks build gauge over time and have your hardcasts or Dark Arts spells build a separate gauge. Have a capstone ability that makes your big spells cost no MP and have no CD for a limited time on a 1 minute or 2 minute CD.

    Even if it isn't Necromancer I do think the next Caster has to be powerful and needs to focus around Dots to offer a different playstyle and split the casters between support/utility and pure damage.

    This way we have BLM/??? bring the damage and SMN/RDM bring support(raid buffs/Raise slave) and lower damage.

    As it stands we have a class system where

    Tanks are : Main Tank/Offtank

    Healers are : Pure Heal/Shields and Mitigation

    DPS : Weird uneven split between damage and raid buffing
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 09-22-2022 at 04:33 AM.

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    You're never getting Necromancer, I think Yoshi-P has outright stated.
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Geomancer would be my first choice too. Capitalising on ground based area of effect abilities, and Water/Wind/Earth elements.
    But I think there's too much Geomancer in the game for it to be a job at this point. They never add a new job that's already been covered more than a merely mention in some dialogue, and Yoshi P has specifically said they're not doing any more 'classic' jobs.

    However he has said he wants an eastern caster job. Onmyoji could be something similar but with a dark twist, although BLM is already meant to be our 'dark' mage job. Or there's Ascetic, which was briefly hinted at in the level 90 Physical Ranged Role Quest via Gosetsu.
    So that's what my money would be on, Ascetic. No idea what it would look like as a job itself, but I'm assuming a DPS equivalent of WHM, hopefully still using Water/Wind/Earth elements.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 09-22-2022 at 04:46 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    You're never getting Necromancer, I think Yoshi-P has outright stated.
    It doesn't matter. And Yoshi P also said Paladins cannot block magic. These things change. It could be Void Mage, Geo, Ascian, Paragon, Bananathrower whatever you want to call it.

    He will change his mind when it suits his whimsy.

    If they can put REAPER into the game anything is possible.

    It could even be a Chemist job where you throw potions at people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    It doesn't matter. And Yoshi P also said Paladins cannot block magic. These things change. It could be Void Mage, Geo, Bananathrower whatever you want to call it.

    He will change his mind when it suits his whimsy.

    If they can put REAPER into the game anything is possible.
    I do think literally raising the dead is a line they won't cross, but there's plenty of ways to get around making Necromancer without actually making Necromancer.
    It could for example be something more like a Beastmaster that summons Ashkin creatures instead.
    It's not high on my list of expectations but it's not impossible.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I do think literally raising the dead is a line they won't cross, but there's plenty of ways to get around making Necromancer without actually making Necromancer.
    It could for example be something more like a Beastmaster that summons Ashkin creatures instead.
    It's not high on my list of expectations but it's not impossible.
    The thing people fail to realize that FF Necromancer doesn't have a lot to do with raising the dead. You are more like a Warlock that uses magic that even Black Mages wouldn't touch with a 35 foot pole. Instead of raising dead you'd just be summoning demons which with all the 13th shard and Void stuff you could feasibly make a Necromancer/Warlock kind of class by avoiding summoning dead things entirely.

    Now on the offchance that Yoshi P dug himself a hole and can't feasibly add another caster he can just create a new one like he did with Sage since Sage has little to do with FF3 Sage and instead is a more exciting Gundam themed class instead of a class that has mastery over Black and White Magic. I think they can come up with something.

    But I do think a new caster that rivals Black Mage whatever it turns out to be needs to happen.

    Realistically unless they create a new job, they only have Necromancer, Geomancer and Mystic Knight/Sorcerer to pull from.

    But I don't think people would be opposed to a caster that can do stuff that Emperor Palamecia/Golbez/ExDeath/Ultimecia are capable of.

    Or release the Blue Mage and let them wreak havoc.

    A lot of people could suggest Time Mage but it already exists as a Oracle/Time Mage hybrid as Astrologian.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 09-22-2022 at 05:06 AM.

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