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    Am I the only one who has a really good memory for these old extreme fights? Like it's a thing you study and memorize until you clear so it kinda gets ingrained in your mind even if years down the line some of the details are fuzzy.
    Like it's been 6 years since I've done Garuda EX but I still remember that Suprana buffs Garuda's HP while Chirada buffs Suprana's HP so the off tank has to grab it and tank it far away and you gotta tank swap the Spiny Plume or it wipes the raid (would this even be possible nowadays without Flash?) and that's basically all the major mechanics in that fight.
    Same with Ramuh - tank swap after 3 orb stacks, if you get tethered grab 3 orbs also and kill adds without staying in the water too long.
    Some of these old fights are quite deceptively simple, we've come a long way since then with stuff like Zodiark twisting the arena and forcing you to figure out where things will end up on the fly.
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Am I the only one who has a really good memory for these old extreme fights? Like it's a thing you study and memorize until you clear so it kinda gets ingrained in your mind even if years down the line some of the details are fuzzy.
    Like it's been 6 years since I've done Garuda EX but I still remember that Suprana buffs Garuda's HP while Chirada buffs Suprana's HP so the off tank has to grab it and tank it far away and you gotta tank swap the Spiny Plume or it wipes the raid (would this even be possible nowadays without Flash?) and that's basically all the major mechanics in that fight.
    Same with Ramuh - tank swap after 3 orb stacks, if you get tethered grab 3 orbs also and kill adds without staying in the water too long.
    Some of these old fights are quite deceptively simple, we've come a long way since then with stuff like Zodiark twisting the arena and forcing you to figure out where things will end up on the fly.
    If I don't do the thing multiple times to actually ingrain it, no amount of study will actually commit it for me in the long run like that :x

    It might work at the time, because information is nice and fresh. But once that's done, odds are I'm going to forget it. Like, I still remember some stuff about E11S, but if you were to ask me about it, I'd likely stumble all throughout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Am I the only one who has a really good memory for these old extreme fights? Like it's a thing you study and memorize until you clear so it kinda gets ingrained in your mind even if years down the line some of the details are fuzzy.
    Like it's been 6 years since I've done Garuda EX but I still remember that Suprana buffs Garuda's HP while Chirada buffs Suprana's HP so the off tank has to grab it and tank it far away and you gotta tank swap the Spiny Plume or it wipes the raid (would this even be possible nowadays without Flash?) and that's basically all the major mechanics in that fight.
    Same with Ramuh - tank swap after 3 orb stacks, if you get tethered grab 3 orbs also and kill adds without staying in the water too long.
    Some of these old fights are quite deceptively simple, we've come a long way since then with stuff like Zodiark twisting the arena and forcing you to figure out where things will end up on the fly.
    I'm good with stuff like that too. If I do a fight enough, it's learned. If I'm unsure of something, I start to remember along the way. Memoria is the only fight I can think of where I had to go back and read things over, as I wasn't running it consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Am I the only one who has a really good memory for these old extreme fights? Like it's a thing you study and memorize until you clear so it kinda gets ingrained in your mind even if years down the line some of the details are fuzzy.
    Compared to normal dungeons, you are suddently stuck at a boss fight for a lot longer. And this makes you learn the mechanics in a far better way. Even if you forget some details, your memory is generaly good at resolving this whenever a mistake is made.

    To me there were only 2 expert experiences:
    - Either its easily finished in 1 go
    - Or there are a lot of wipes (giving a lot of bonusses), where the players slowly learn the mechanics and optimize.

    For me the 2nd experience is generaly better as it actualy makes me learn. For all those first ones i basicly already forgot what was going on as its only a few minutes compared to easily being stuck on the boss for half an hour. And especialy since most ARR content is rather dull, that 2nd experience at least allows me to push it a bit trying to cover up for my teammates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Am I the only one who has a really good memory for these old extreme fights? Like it's a thing you study and memorize until you clear so it kinda gets ingrained in your mind even if years down the line some of the details are fuzzy.
    Like it's been 6 years since I've done Garuda EX but I still remember that Suprana buffs Garuda's HP while Chirada buffs Suprana's HP so the off tank has to grab it and tank it far away and you gotta tank swap the Spiny Plume or it wipes the raid (would this even be possible nowadays without Flash?) and that's basically all the major mechanics in that fight.
    Same with Ramuh - tank swap after 3 orb stacks, if you get tethered grab 3 orbs also and kill adds without staying in the water too long.
    Some of these old fights are quite deceptively simple, we've come a long way since then with stuff like Zodiark twisting the arena and forcing you to figure out where things will end up on the fly.
    I'm good with fights I've farmed, but if I got some ARR EX trial that I never bothered unsyncing because I joined 6 years after it released, then it'd obviously be a bit different. If I ever unlocked Mentor roulette, I probably wouldn't even queue it until I reviewed all those old-ass fights that I've only ever unsynced.
    Err, this is of course outside of the scope of this thread. I'm saying I'd look up a guide if I queued in as a mentor, mainly so I could help new people to it. If someone else who's genuinely new/blind wants to experience it blind that's obviously on them. All of this is ultimately why I couldn't care less for mentor roulette though. Didn't renew my crown, didn't bother unlocking the roulette, don't even like the mount.
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