Should GCD Healing also trigger Sage's Kardion effect?

[ty_taurus]

As it stands, I think having Diagnosis and Prognosis, as well as their Eukrasian counterparts, works well as a passable source of healing when there's no enemy to target, such as during a phase change, and they shouldn't also trigger Kardia because the whole point of SGE is to avoid GCD heals like the plague more than any other healer. You're not supposed to want to even think of using those tools when an enemy is present. However, the potential of Kardia is really lacking. Like with what AnotherPerson said at the beginning, SGE should've had a wider selection of offensive spells that apply different effects to your Kardia target.

[AmiableApkallu]

SGE should've had a wider selection of offensive spells that apply different effects to your Kardia target.

How is this supposed to work? How is this interesting? That's something I've never understood.

If we ignore latency and FFXIV's netcode, Kardia/Kardion could be a GNB Continuation-style button that procs after Dosis and company. The mechanic is essentially GCD damage + oGCD heal, which is not a new play style. What makes it mildly interesting, I suppose, is that the actual implementation lets you weave in a second oGCD heal of your choosing, despite the 1.5sec cast time on the original GCD.

[ty_taurus]

How is this supposed to work? How is this interesting? That's something I've never understood.

If we ignore latency and FFXIV's netcode, Kardia/Kardion could be a GNB Continuation-style button that procs after Dosis and company. The mechanic is essentially GCD damage + oGCD heal, which is not a new play style. What makes it mildly interesting, I suppose, is that the actual implementation lets you weave in a second oGCD heal of your choosing, despite the 1.5sec cast time on the original GCD.

Imagine if you had different spells that had other effects on your Kardia target, such as:
- Applies a barrier instead of a heal
- Heals in an AoE
- Heals a larger amount
- Provides mitigation
- Provides an offensive buff
- Provides a healing action potency increase

We have tools that are just OGCD buffs, but SGE could both diversify its GCD gameplay as well as condense its total buttons by replacing tools with offensive spells that provide the original tools' effects. Zoe could've been a DPS action with the same potency as Dosis that provides the same effect and would create a pseudo combo with Pneuma. Krasis could've been a DPS spell that provided its current buff to your Kardia target. I really wish instead of automatically generating over time, Addersgall was generated by a GCD spell on a 20 second cooldown with charges. PVP Pneuma shows how Panhaima could've been an offensive spell, and I kinda prefer that to our current Pneuma, though as it stands, Pneuma's burst healing is really important to have in harder content so it couldn't exactly be replaced, but what if Ekurasian Pneuma offered the effects of Panhaima?

Eurkasia has a lot of potential to make a growing library of offensive spells create choice between what Kardia effects you want on a target, as many other tools would likely need to be limited behind cooldowns or MP costs.

This direction would both play into the tools SGE already has as well as the fantasy that SGE is trying to fulfill. It would give people who want that green DPS fantasy to have a job suited to them, and those that don't want that... Well WHM, AST, and SCH still exist.