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[BRVV]

"Just move to another server"

How do i move my whole FC / static etc. to that server?

Or i could go to a dead server! Full of houses! Wait 30 minutes for a leveling roulette! I rather have no house

[Shibi]

"Just move to another server"

How do i move my whole FC / static etc. to that server?

Or i could go to a dead server! Full of houses! Wait 30 minutes for a leveling roulette! I rather have no house

EU DC travel means you are not tied to your server, want a house on Phantom + stay in your community on Spriggan - you can! CWLS means you are not tied to your FC. DC/World travel means you can be with your static on both of the EU DCs.

The system as it stands also means that Light or Chaos, the world doesn't matter as your roulette draws from the existing servers too. As you are on Spriggan you could move to Sagittarius or Phantom and roulette would be exactly the same. 100% no change.

If you want a house - and knowing that SE won't do what we all wish for any time soon - then you can certainly get onto a new server and get one, and not need to give up your friends nor your static, and you wouldn't see a skerrick of difference in Roulette. The queues wouldn't be a second slower - Spriggan or Phantom.

If you won't do this, then maybe a house just isn't so high on your list of what's important?

So yeah, we'd all love an improvement, nobody denies this, but sometimes you just gotta make do. And right now - if you actually want a house - you are in a great position on Chaos to jump on Phantom or Saggy with all those old worlds to draw from seamlessly, including Spriggan + being able to DC travel to Light.

[Alycen]

Transferring servers is not the solution so please stop suggesting it. Nobody should be expected to leave their established communities to get a house.

Please stop. There are better solutions out there, we just need to keep talking about them and perhaps someone will actually listen.

[Solarra]

While this topic is far from new, the housing system does lock a lot of people out from content they would enjoy. It also encourages people to hang on to houses they don't particularly want because they know they're not going to get another any time soon if they change their mind.

[B]Why not just move to a less populated worldB] Like many simple solutions, this one ignores the many good reasons people have for staying put. There is no guarantee that you'll get a house if you do move and leaving friends behind is not something many people want to do. For people who want to join the friends or who already have an established group of friends on a particular world, moving just for the chance of getting a house is not practical.

The biggest plus I can see for instanced houses is that the system will be far more flexible than the one we have at present. With the ward system, the most populated worlds have far more issues than less populated worlds, even apartments are unavailable on some. With instanced houses provided alongside the wards, supply could more easily tailored to match demand.

The fact that every character now has the opportunity to have their very own instanced island suggests that providing personal instanced houses should also be possible.

[Shibi]

Please stop. There are better solutions out there, we just need to keep talking about them and perhaps someone will actually listen.

It's not a zero sum.

We can keep pushing SE to do something most other MMOs excel at and FFXIV simply fails at, while still having something in the meantime.

The fact that every character now has the opportunity to have their very own instanced island suggests that providing personal instanced houses should also be possible.

Yes, and it beggars belief why SE won't push that further.

[Tibbroar]

You have a solution. It just seems you choose not to take it. Move server, or make an alt on a server with housing.

If you see an opportunity to get this "locked out content" but don't take it, whose fault is it?

Is it ideal? No.
Do we all want better? Yes.

But you can today make a move to let you grow your onions and put out your outdoor furnishings.

Drastically reducing your ability to interact with your friends and FC is not a reasonable solution to this problem and you know it. Not to mention that it isn't even available to NA right now.

[Shibi]

Drastically reducing your ability to interact with your friends and FC is not a reasonable solution to this problem and you know it.

I span both Aether and Materia, with my house on Materia and my friends and FC (which I lead) on Aether.

Again, you can be pragmatic and take what you can while always continuing to push SE for a better solution - as I do - or you can just throw your hands in the air and be homeless.

Is it perfect? Not by a damned longshot, but if housing is important to one, then it's a solution, house where you can, keep friends as you can - and importantly - never stop pushing SE for a better solution.

[Tibbroar]

I span both Aether and Materia, with my house on Materia and my friends and FC (which I lead) on Aether.

Again, you can be pragmatic and take what you can while always continuing to push SE for a better solution - as I do - or you can just throw your hands in the air and be homeless.

Is it perfect? Not by a damned longshot, but if housing is important to one, then it's a solution, house where you can, keep friends as you can - and importantly - never stop pushing SE for a better solution.

That's nice. I'm not making an alt to buy a house on another server. I'm not leaving my friends and FC to buy a house on another server. Is it A solution? Yes. Is it an acceptable one? Absolutely not. And I will absolutely under no circumstances give SE the impression that it is acceptable by utilizing it. I will quit the game before doing so. Everyone that does it is one more person that is telling SE that it's a solution that they are okay with.

And instead of addressing the problem they continue to demonstrate gross incompetence in this area by dedicating resources that could be used to help address the problem toward new servers and a private island that I completely finished in less time than I've spent decorating my stupid apartment. Instead of adding supply to the places where demand has completely outstripped supply they decided they should add it somewhere else that has no demand whatsoever. EU with their half empty housing wards on the new servers is a wonderful example of why adding new servers isn't going to solve the problem. Oceania has issues with server population. People don't want to leave their community. Not in FFXIV, not in WoW, not in any game. The quiet majority of MMO players play in large part due to the social aspect. They don't raid, they might occasionally do a dungeon, but they mostly play to hang out with their friends. I don't know how many times game devs (not just SE) need to see this before they get it through their heads that anything that would make that more difficult doesn't work.

And the kicker is that they have yet to even publicly admit this is a problem. It is mind-boggling that the same devs that can do so many things better than any other MMO developer can be so incredibly inept in this area when others have managed to solve it over a decade ago. It's enough to make me want to smack my head into a brick wall in frustration.

[Alycen]

That's nice. I'm not making an alt to buy a house on another server. I'm not leaving my friends and FC to buy a house on another server. Is it A solution? Yes. Is it an acceptable one? Absolutely not. And I will absolutely under no circumstances give SE the impression that it is acceptable by utilizing it. I will quit the game before doing so. Everyone that does it is one more person that is telling SE that it's a solution that they are okay with.

And instead of addressing the problem they continue to demonstrate gross incompetence in this area by dedicating resources that could be used to help address the problem toward new servers and a private island that I completely finished in less time than I've spent decorating my stupid apartment. Instead of adding supply to the places where demand has completely outstripped supply they decided they should add it somewhere else that has no demand whatsoever. EU with their half empty housing wards on the new servers is a wonderful example of why adding new servers isn't going to solve the problem. Oceania has issues with server population. People don't want to leave their community. Not in FFXIV, not in WoW, not in any game. The quiet majority of MMO players play in large part due to the social aspect. They don't raid, they might occasionally do a dungeon, but they mostly play to hang out with their friends. I don't know how many times game devs (not just SE) need to see this before they get it through their heads that anything that would make that more difficult doesn't work.

And the kicker is that they have yet to even publicly admit this is a problem. It is mind-boggling that the same devs that can do so many things better than any other MMO developer can be so incredibly inept in this area when others have managed to solve it over a decade ago. It's enough to make me want to smack my head into a brick wall in frustration.

Hear hear, this is exactly what I've been saying. Thank you for saying this.

Suggesting that transferring servers as the solution to this issue is part of the problem. Trying to shut down people's arguments about this appalling scarcity by telling them there is available housing in other servers IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
It should not be the default reply to people raising this issue. We should be talking about about SE SHOULD be doing for the existing, established communities.

[Yodada]

Hear hear, this is exactly what I've been saying. Thank you for saying this.

Suggesting that transferring servers as the solution to this issue is part of the problem. Trying to shut down people's arguments about this appalling scarcity by telling them there is available housing in other servers IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
It should not be the default reply to people raising this issue. We should be talking about about SE SHOULD be doing for the existing, established communities.

You know whats the standard ABC of an MMO is when servers reach a certain threshold of people on it? Guess you know it already. If not it will answer your question why Square is going to open just new DCs here and there with literally free houses as an incentive to move to the newly opened worlds. It may not your preferred solution (mine neither) but its what Square is going to do and sees it as solution to the "housing crisis".