Locked content for Paying customers.

[Belor]

Its tough to solve but, the warriors of light/ Icon slayers...CAN DO ANYTHING!!

At the end of the day I'm paying for a game and no matter what I do it is completely based on random chance if I will personally ever have access that other players have access to. It does not matter what the thing is that I am being barred from, it the the concept itself.

Person A pays $15/mo and has access. Person B pays $15/mo has no access.

That concept is exactly why I play games like FFXIV and not mobile random chance loot box games. I want to know that my time and effort will pay off in the end. That I can earn anything with hard work and determination. This also seems like a theme that many NPC's in the game espouse as well btw so it is something that the inhabitants of the source and its reflections also believe.

All that being said I would be willing to bet the rest of the money I make for the year on the fact that SE is probably working on a solution but, they will only keep working on that solution if a demand exists to do so. If we all sit back and ignore the issue they will as well. In addition to all of that I am confident they will not make a peep about it until they have a system that works as the mere mention of a revamp will set this issue ablaze with controversy yet again.

When they fix it though, as I suspect it will be instanced, they will have to deal with all the other people who won lotteries and clicked on placards for 72 hours straight. I would agree with those players that they did put in some hard work but they had to ignore all other aspects of the game to get it. They sacrificed and now that sacrifice will be taken from them. I sympathize with them but the reality is the homeless outnumber those with homes and doing nothing is not a solution.

So for now we wait, we hope, and pray our trust in those in power is not destroyed.

See you at the next Placard...

[Oizen]

Housing is dogshit, people who defend it are delusional, and square enix doesn't care.

Honestly if it bothers you so much, you should quit. Squeenix does not care about this issue at all, they dont even view it as an issue or acknowledge it in any way.

[Sotaris]

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What Icon are you slaying? Do you mean EIKON?
If you're really up and arms about being locked out, move server or get an appartment. You'll get access to the workshop and airships soon enough anyway if Yoshida interview is to be believed.
But like said before, you're not really missing out on anything. I'd just sell my houses if it wasn't against TOS.

[Belor]

From what I remember of your post history, you believe everything related to housing is 'locked content'. I think the dead horse really, truly is dead this round of beatings. And, formatted in this very same wording.

You are correct that I have only posted twice on the forums about the same issue. if you read the other post you would see the differences between the two and how I have added to it. Have a nice day

[Belor]

From what I remember of your post history, you believe everything related to housing is 'locked content'. I think the dead horse really, truly is dead this round of beatings. And, formatted in this very same wording.

I supposed your right to a point. If I'm in a relationship that is 99.9% awesome but has one thing that makes me frustrated.... I am faced with a lot of options. One is quitting the activity in question as you pointed out.

I could post quotes from lots of people like from the bible about having the wisdom to know the difference and such or other wise people but that isn't helping..... but I will give one anyway. Ignorance is bliss. If I was truly unaware of the housing system in all its aspects I would be happy with the game exactly as it is 100%. Fix this and its a perfect game for me.

I would like to say that the premise that housing is one of hundreds of unique things in the game that can totally be ignored is not entirely true. There are quests that giving housing items as rewards. As such quests and housing items are connected. Housing items are available for purchase in the Mogstation. Other players and whole zones are full of other players using said housing items they received through the quests and mogstation purchases. Im confident that if i spent more time on this thought I would find more connections.

"When you keep playing a game that doesn't make you happy, or you can only hyper-focus on problems, then we're edging into addiction territory"

Doing something over and over and expecting a different result is insanity.

"hyper-focus" has a negative connotation and insinuates that the person is childish ( this was further demonstrated by another stating "don't you have something better to do with your life?". I have never heard of anyone being cheered on for being hyper-focused on anything but a laser focus is always good for some reason even though the amount of focus is identical.

It seems that you are suggesting that we have no power and as such we just have to accept everything the way it is and if we don't like it we always just walk away or shrug and ignore it and if your frustrated at any point then YOU are the problem and we are not allowed to vent frustration in the spot designated to do so.

In my house I have a saying that I do with my kids.

I say " Life is What?"
they say " Not fair"

The reason we play video games or games at all is because the premise is that this is supposed to be fair. That the only barrier is our time and effort or lack there of. We do it to escape the "not fair" of real life and when you hit a wall like this its breaks the immersion and reminds you of real life.

/shrug

[Sotaris]

( this was further demonstrated by another stating "don't you have something better to do with your life?".

I agree, Almagus is a childish person.

[Jojoya]

But like said before, you're not really missing out on anything. I'd just sell my houses if it wasn't against TOS.

You could just relinquish them and be done with the system if you think so little of it. That would give at least a few other players a chance to enter the system and make their own decision.

Also, selling for gil isn't against ToS. What's against ToS is selling for real money, or purchasing with the intent to resell (whether for gil or real money). You could resell for the same price you paid in the first place.\

[Shibi]

In my house I have a saying that I do with my kids.

I say " Life is What?"
they say " Not fair"

The reason we play video games or games at all is because the premise is that this is supposed to be fair. That the only barrier is our time and effort or lack there of. We do it to escape the "not fair" of real life and when you hit a wall like this its breaks the immersion and reminds you of real life.

You have a solution. It just seems you choose not to take it. Move server, or make an alt on a server with housing.

If you see an opportunity to get this "locked out content" but don't take it, whose fault is it?

Is it ideal? No.
Do we all want better? Yes.

But you can today make a move to let you grow your onions and put out your outdoor furnishings.

[Sotaris]

You could just relinquish them and be done with the system if you think so little of it. That would give at least a few other players a chance to enter the system and make their own decision.

Also, selling for gil isn't against ToS. What's against ToS is selling for real money, or purchasing with the intent to resell (whether for gil or real money). You could resell for the same price you paid in the first place.\

Yeah, no. I'm not really keen on throwing 100+M into the void.

[Jojoya]

Yeah, no. I'm not really keen on throwing 100+M into the void.

Too late, you already did that. The gil is spent and gone. You're left with something you don't enjoy. Holding onto it does not bring the gil back. The sunk cost fallacy is not your friend.

Getting rid of the houses would at least let you reclaim part of that 100+M. FC houses could be sold intact to players who want a house and are willing to go the FC route to get one. On the personal houses, you can invite people in as tenant to buy what furnishings they want. Any leftover furnishing could be desynthed for materials to sell/use and anything still left after that sold to vendor or discarded.

You've presented yourself as an example of part of what is wrong with the system - people clinging to something they don't care about for nonsensical reasons while others who would enjoy having the access are locked out. Not to say that it's entirely your fault - the system is badly designed. But you could choose to make a small but positive difference by letting go of what you don't want yet refuse to do it.