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    Locked content for Paying customers.

    Greetings Fellow Warriors of Light!

    I am a relatively new player about 16 months in. The system for acquiring a house is difficult to say the least. There simply isn't a guaranteed way to acquire one. That is a problem for everyone who pays money to play this game. Most items in the game outside of event are achievable by anyone who puts in the time. In addition, crossbreeding is locked to houses only. Quest rewards offer outdoor housing for anyone in the game yet we cannot use them (I have 4 items on my retainer).

    To be clear I understand technical issues with assets being loaded in when the server is up. Please do not mention it. if you wish to engage lets talk solutions.

    The one I came up with is instanced housing and not loaded up the server. The first instance "house" would be an apartment for the normal price. then one could "upgrade" to a cottage, so on and so forth all the way up to mansion. This would also work as the island sanctuaries in the way that your friends can visit.

    To me this seems like a solution that allows anyone(paying customers) to access this part of the game in its entirety.

    What do you think?
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    From what I remember of your post history, you believe everything related to housing is 'locked content'. I think the dead horse really, truly is dead this round of beatings. And, formatted in this very same wording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    From what I remember of your post history, you believe everything related to housing is 'locked content'. I think the dead horse really, truly is dead this round of beatings. And, formatted in this very same wording.
    You are correct that I have only posted twice on the forums about the same issue. if you read the other post you would see the differences between the two and how I have added to it. Have a nice day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    From what I remember of your post history, you believe everything related to housing is 'locked content'. I think the dead horse really, truly is dead this round of beatings. And, formatted in this very same wording.
    I supposed your right to a point. If I'm in a relationship that is 99.9% awesome but has one thing that makes me frustrated.... I am faced with a lot of options. One is quitting the activity in question as you pointed out.

    I could post quotes from lots of people like from the bible about having the wisdom to know the difference and such or other wise people but that isn't helping..... but I will give one anyway. Ignorance is bliss. If I was truly unaware of the housing system in all its aspects I would be happy with the game exactly as it is 100%. Fix this and its a perfect game for me.

    I would like to say that the premise that housing is one of hundreds of unique things in the game that can totally be ignored is not entirely true. There are quests that giving housing items as rewards. As such quests and housing items are connected. Housing items are available for purchase in the Mogstation. Other players and whole zones are full of other players using said housing items they received through the quests and mogstation purchases. Im confident that if i spent more time on this thought I would find more connections.

    "When you keep playing a game that doesn't make you happy, or you can only hyper-focus on problems, then we're edging into addiction territory"

    Doing something over and over and expecting a different result is insanity.

    "hyper-focus" has a negative connotation and insinuates that the person is childish ( this was further demonstrated by another stating "don't you have something better to do with your life?". I have never heard of anyone being cheered on for being hyper-focused on anything but a laser focus is always good for some reason even though the amount of focus is identical.

    It seems that you are suggesting that we have no power and as such we just have to accept everything the way it is and if we don't like it we always just walk away or shrug and ignore it and if your frustrated at any point then YOU are the problem and we are not allowed to vent frustration in the spot designated to do so.

    In my house I have a saying that I do with my kids.

    I say " Life is What?"
    they say " Not fair"

    The reason we play video games or games at all is because the premise is that this is supposed to be fair. That the only barrier is our time and effort or lack there of. We do it to escape the "not fair" of real life and when you hit a wall like this its breaks the immersion and reminds you of real life.

    /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belor View Post
    ( this was further demonstrated by another stating "don't you have something better to do with your life?".
    I agree, Almagus is a childish person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belor View Post
    In my house I have a saying that I do with my kids.

    I say " Life is What?"
    they say " Not fair"

    The reason we play video games or games at all is because the premise is that this is supposed to be fair. That the only barrier is our time and effort or lack there of. We do it to escape the "not fair" of real life and when you hit a wall like this its breaks the immersion and reminds you of real life.

    You have a solution.
    It just seems you choose not to take it. Move server, or make an alt on a server with housing.

    If you see an opportunity to get this "locked out content" but don't take it, whose fault is it?

    Is it ideal? No.
    Do we all want better? Yes.

    But you can today make a move to let you grow your onions and put out your outdoor furnishings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post

    You have a solution.
    It just seems you choose not to take it. Move server, or make an alt on a server with housing.

    If you see an opportunity to get this "locked out content" but don't take it, whose fault is it?

    Is it ideal? No.
    Do we all want better? Yes.

    But you can today make a move to let you grow your onions and put out your outdoor furnishings.
    Drastically reducing your ability to interact with your friends and FC is not a reasonable solution to this problem and you know it. Not to mention that it isn't even available to NA right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibbroar View Post
    Drastically reducing your ability to interact with your friends and FC is not a reasonable solution to this problem and you know it.
    I span both Aether and Materia, with my house on Materia and my friends and FC (which I lead) on Aether.

    Again, you can be pragmatic and take what you can while always continuing to push SE for a better solution - as I do - or you can just throw your hands in the air and be homeless.

    Is it perfect? Not by a damned longshot, but if housing is important to one, then it's a solution, house where you can, keep friends as you can - and importantly - never stop pushing SE for a better solution.
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    Seems simple to me, honestly.

    If the end-all, be-all of FFXIV for a person is owning a house, and they've been unable to purchase one, then FFXIV really isn't the game for that person. Housing is a feature of this game, one of hundreds, and hinging an entire gaming experience on one feature doesn't make much sense. Sure, anyone is welcome to hinge their entire experience on housing; that's their prerogative. But to continue banging one's head against the wall because of one feature... seems counter-productive to one's leisure activities.

    So, either:

    - You want housing so much that your FFXIV play sessions without a house are dissatisfying. Answer: Quit this game and pick a different one where you can easily get housing; or
    - You don't want housing enough to stop you from enjoying other aspects of FFXIV. Answer: Keep playing FFXIV, enter housing lotteries (or don't) and stop worrying about housing.

    When you keep playing a game that doesn't make you happy, or you can only hyper-focus on problems, then we're edging into addiction territory. You should be able to just stop or change activities that bring you frustration. When we humans cannot do that, it's an indicator we need help with our problems that we cannot provide ourselves.

    /shrug
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    I will agree that housing is the most poorly implemented marketed feature in the game. The good news is that the rest of the game is pretty great. However, if you want a fulfilling experience where you get the house size and location you desire, this game will not deliver.

    At this point, I'm out of fucks to give in regards to housing. While I still want a better house in-game, the past half year has taught me that's not going to happen. Oh well, you move on.
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