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Thread: Bizarre burnout

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    This forum is capital negativity and majority of the playerbase isn't even on them to drown out the naysayers because they are busy enjoying the game so don't use that as any axis to judge. People on this forum, largely just love to hate but they are an extremely small minority. XIV is miles ahead of every single MMO on the market, with WoW being its closest competitor. You will not find a better dev team, anywhere with this measure of playerbase, accessibility, or content wise.

    Having said that, burnout is a thing so it's ok to take breaks. Alternatively, you could give other parts of XIV a try. There is rarely a player that has did every piece of content in the game, even battle content wise.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 09-19-2022 at 04:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crustyman View Post
    Before EW I was a smn main, job got bogged down to press 1 button to wins
    It's not really 1 button unless you macro it. Most of the time you are pressing 2 or alternating between 2. You have all your summon buttons, Astral Flow, Enkindle, Energy Drain, Ruin IV, Fester and Searing Light. I find it fun, personally.

    Dragoon and astrologian are my other favorite jobs, but after hearing what they're gonna do to them in 7.0, I just really don't wanna play.
    You don't know what they'll do yet because they haven't done it. We can form a guess based on how MNK was changed but that's it.

    It's been even worse lately with all the negativity with dark knight and machinist.
    I haven't seen any negativity about dark knight except on these forums. A lot of people enjoy playing dark knight. I enjoy playing machinist as well, people are just upset about its DPS and not being able to weave between a 1.5 GCD.

    It really makes me feel that the huge surge of players that came with EW drove ffxiv to the boiling point of just making crappy decisions that benefits nobody.
    It's not anything recent. They made jobs hard to play in the past and they began to notice that when they made aspects of them easier or more intuitive, more people played them. Most jobs could lose something they were keeping up and ruin their damage in Stormblood so it was made easier in Shadowbringers and then they became traits in Endwalker. Before Endwalker released, we were told in a live letter that they are happy with where they got the jobs to in Shadowbringers and want to continue it in Endwalker.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    @Kaynide I HAVE GW2, but as an oceanic player I have had major headaches finding people online in my timezone. Any suggestions?
    Take these forums with a grain of salt the size of the Titanic.

    I usually play solo here in Japan, but I’ve never really had trouble meeting people. I forget which, but I seem to remember there was an unofficial oceania server (like how Tonberry sorta is for FFXIV). Though I also wanna say the game is like 1 mega server now outside of pvp.

    I’d check their forum, or just go to Lion’s Arch and ask around.
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    lots of varied but great advice and I share the same thoughts in that just take a break or do the bare minimum if you dont mind sub going, rest and recharge is often great and if you find something new and fall in love then awesome <3. I just keep in my mind am I enjoying, feeling relaxed and getting joy out of it. So personally my time in ebbs and flows and oddly, very oddly, Island Sanctuary is getting me to seek out a farming simulator to branch off and try.
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    and speaking of taking breaks, I really should start finishing my backlogs.
    Eugh.
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    People on this forum, largely just love to hate but they are an extremely small minority.
    They are, yes. VERY small.

    You will not find a better dev team, anywhere with this measure of playerbase, accessibility, or content wise.
    Damned straight.
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    Take a break. Wait until either 6.3 or 6.25 if the variant/criterion dungeons appeal to you, and see how you feel after that. It could be you just went really hard when you started and now it's catching up to you. Take a break, pick up another game, chill for a bit with that, come back when you feel you want to. If an event or something interests you, come back for it. I've not let my sub lapse (and can back that up with my amount of days subbed, it's a large number ahah) and when I need minor breaks, I take them. Maybe log in for like, cactpot or something once a week, but otherwise do something else for a while. Usually a minor break is enough for me, where I do bare minimum and then log off to play something else. The brain break from doing that helps immensely, and while I may be saying "play something else" it's most definitely not in an offended way. Sometimes your brain just needs that cleanse! If you don't come back for a few patches, that's fine too. Everything will be there when you come back after a break to catch up on.

    Going to also agree with a lot of others and say "stay off the OF because it's only negative here" lol. We don't know what they'll do with AST and DRG, and while "extensive reworks" could mean a lot of things, some may be rolled back if the changes are not what are really wanted (see: bowmage in 3.0, no one liked Wanderer's Minuet adding cast bars to bard abilities. NO ONE. they rolled that back.) I also play AST as my main healer, and while I'm unhappy with a couple of changes made to it in EW, it feels all right for now, but I do wonder what they want to change. We won't know how it feels until it happens in 7.0 and the media tours beforehand, so all we can do is speculate which isn't good for anyone - it only means that we'll have some preconceived opinion of what we think they'll do which becomes what they WILL do somewhere down the line and then it becomes being heavily disappointed in whatever they do, no matter if it's actually good or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    and wait for the day that SMN becomes even half the class that it was in FFXI
    No thanks, WHM Simulator But As A SMN was boring when that was the meta (and it looks like it still kind of is, only now RDM and SCH are acceptable for... HEALING AND BUFFS ugh) and put me into the SMN Out Of Spite come XIV 2.0 so I could actually use my summons. Get all these cool avatars, can only use Light Sprite to boost your healing or you don't get groups! Yeah, no, don't bring that curse here. More variance in SMN would be fine, more than just a simple rotation is fine (because while I enjoy SMN and have been playing iterations of it since 2.0, I'd like a little more to it) but I don't want Healbot 9000 feat. A Summon. Just play SCH at that point because that's all it is.
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    I’m saying that there are a lot of better games than Endwalker that we should be playing
    "We" should be playing?

    What "we" should do...is whatever 'we" feel like.

    I am having a great time, thanks.
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    I used to play and love Sum for years, but I don't even want to touch it now because of how boring it is.
    My main is Ast and I've been raiding with it for years and i'm worried it gets the same treatment, remove all depth, even though it hardly has any left.
    Just so many jobs are braindead now I almost want to have a FF14 Heavensward Classic like WoW has..
    Not to mention people are so bad now because of the quick braindead leveling people still don't know to aoe etc in 80 dungeons..
    Lots of things to complain about, but I still keep finding reasons to play, raiding with friends mostly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    FFXIV has become a game where all I can do is log in to turn in leves and wait for the day that SMN becomes even half the class that it was in FFXI, but my trust in job design/combat has reached such a low that it wouldn’t surprise me if the class somehow lost abilities coming into 7.0.

    Diofield releases this week and I was able to pick up Octopath Traveler on PC for half off on steam. Unlike the people who will doubtless come in here trying to paint you as somehow in the wrong or recommend content that doesn’t appeal to battle oriented players, I’m not telling you to “go play something else” as I detest when people throw that in my face whenever I complain - I’m saying that there are a lot of better games than Endwalker that we should be playing especially with how far the standards of gameplay and writing have fallen here. Keep speaking out, and keep pointing out how other games are doing things better than FFXIV is right now.
    I admit I skipped over this because I thought it was another story rant. It's nice to see there's a little more to this, but it's the same old deluded posturing. Child please. You are the supposed authority on quality in gaming, yet somehow the actual numbers and overall health of the game seem to say otherwise. You are absolutely telling someone to go play something else. If you detest people throwing that in your face, consider stopping with that nonsense.

    The SMN bit made me chuckle too. SMN will fully be what it was in XI because that flexibility is not there. The best part is the fact that the rework actually put us closer to that version and all the other version of that job in the franchise. This is closer to the summoner I signed up for, not that janky pet class that was a combo of conjurer and necro.

    All games have their appeals and their flaws. It's up to each individual (not you) to figure out what works best for them.
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