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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    An idea that really, smacks of justifying the intense paranoia and xenophobia of the Garleans, because look! The barbarians of the world actually were out to get the poor Garleans.
    People tend to want revenge on those who wronged them, and so expecting people to want to get revenge is completely normal. From what I can tell from the story, the treatment from the Garleans depended on who was in charge. Landis was mentioned as being fairly peaceful, with the people laughing and living alongside Garlean soldiers without issues. Doma as we saw was treated like absolute crap, and judging from the whole thing with Bozja, the entire thing was caused by a tragedy nobody in Garlemald had no real control over (because Bahamut set everything in motion). Considering how the IVth treated people equally, it's very likely the civilians of Lea Monde are fans of the Garleans (and may be hostile towards the Resistance).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    People tend to want revenge on those who wronged them, and so expecting people to want to get revenge is completely normal. From what I can tell from the story, the treatment from the Garleans depended on who was in charge. Landis was mentioned as being fairly peaceful, with the people laughing and living alongside Garlean soldiers without issues. Doma as we saw was treated like absolute crap, and judging from the whole thing with Bozja, the entire thing was caused by a tragedy nobody in Garlemald had no real control over (because Bahamut set everything in motion). Considering how the IVth treated people equally, it's very likely the civilians of Lea Monde are fans of the Garleans (and may be hostile towards the Resistance).
    In one of the first cutscenes with Gabranth, he's standing in Valnain (his main base city of that region of Dalmasca) which is partly in ruins so I wouldn't count on local support for the IVth there. According to Return to Ivalice, Gabranth and his IVth legion had just marched on the city, which doesn't sound like they consented and opened the doors for him. There's also mentions of Dalmascan Resistance working there. Lea Monde isn't mentioned as much as Valnain is, but we know from ARR that the Garleans (who would have been led by the IVth and Gabranth at the time) burned down the entire countryside around Lea Monde and destroyed the vineyards.

    30 years before present, he killed 70,000 Dalmascans along with their prince when he besieged Nalbina. All the way back in ARR we met a Garlean who was traumatized by the IVth's invasion of his home. The Dalmascans made multiple rebellions, not just the one we knew about recently that turned Rabanastre into a hole in the ground. The whole province refused to submit and that's what led to the XIVth being brought in to wreck everything.

    As far as Bozja goes, we know it wasn't great before the Garleans came, but the resistance members we bump into also talk about being oppressed and I don't think they'd have a resistance if they were in a Landis situation where everything was hunky-dory.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    In one of the first cutscenes with Gabranth, he's standing in Valnain (his main base city and capital of that region of Dalmasca) which is partly in ruins so I wouldn't count on local support for the IVth there. According to Return to Ivalice, Gabranth and his IVth legion had just marched on the city, which doesn't sound like they consented and opened the doors for him. There's also mentions of Dalmascan Resistance working there.
    Considering he had broken away from the main Garlean army, and that the Garlean refueling center was destroyed there...I'm wondering if he planned that in advance to make it so no other Legion could come after the IVth easily.
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