Online Store is Getting Worse!

[Anura]

I mean should everything just cost 50 cents then? 10 cents maybe? Heck less than that if we're going by your logic. That outfit doesn't even make up 1% ofcthe ones in game therefore if we apply your logic they should be sold for pennies because that's the ratio.

You see how off that is?

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into it compared to any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.

Rambling.

Do me a favour and keep your schizophrenic ramblings to yourself. This is a forum, if you're not in a mood to discuss, just close the tab.

[Renalt]

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.



Do me a favour and keep your schizophrenic ramblings to yourself. This is a forum, if you're not in a mood to discuss, just close the tab.

Dude...let people spend their money the way they want. It's priced that way cause people buy it. If people didn't...you'd see a cut in price damn near instantly.

I don't like the prices and I think it's dumb too but I'm not about telling people how they should spend their money. If they want to do it...they ARE going to do it...and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

Relax man.

[Anura]

Dude...let people spend their money the way they want. It's priced that way cause people buy it. If people didn't...you'd see a cut in price damn near instantly.

I don't like the prices and I think it's dumb too but I'm not about telling people how they should spend their money. If they want to do it...they ARE going to do it...and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

Relax man.

I know, I'm not policing anyone. There are people spending a hundred dollars on a house back on ESO and I've never said anything to them. Zenimax is selling overpriced shit, so I went after them, not that it made any difference. Now, if people decided to say it's fair, then yes, I'd argue it's not, but not because I'm strictly against cash shops. Hell, I bought a bunch of costumes off them, after all.

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It's a virtual product with a set price that you CANNOT influence by offering more of the same. Square has complete and absolute control over it, so they can set whatever price they want just being careful to not completely extrapolate it. It's a unique item only available here, to people who play the live service game which has the objective of CONSTANTLY finding new players, when it's not on life support. Never will "everyone" have such item. It's even limited to a single character per purchase, not your account, and since, again, Square has complete control over it, it cannot break (unless they're utterly stupid). They can just use basic strategies like fomo. And no, it has no risk. The time and money that goes into making cosmetics is minimal and the profit is humongous. There are some videos of (valve?) employees talking about how little goes into making such items and how they're constantly making huge piles of cash. A risk is what Square took making that shitty Avengers game, which fell on their face.

[Renalt]

I know, I'm not policing anyone. There are people spending a hundred dollars on a house back on ESO and I've never said anything to them. Zenimax is selling overpriced shit, so I went after them, not that it made any difference. Now, if people decided to say it's fair, then yes, I'd argue it's not, but not because I'm strictly against cash shops. Hell, I bought a bunch of costumes off them, after all.

If you wanna debate fair prices...take it with the dev or Mogstation team then. Not us. You are changing no minds here.

[Raoabolic]

If you wanna debate fair prices...take it with the dev or Mogstation team then. Not us. You are changing no minds here.

*reads the third line of your signature*
"But given time, horror fades, and repetition makes what was unthinkable now normal; the monstrous is made manageable. For mankind adapts to every horror."
You are right, everyone is free to spend their money however they like. I think loot boxes got a bad rap as well~! :^)

[Renalt]

*reads the third line of your signature*
"But given time, horror fades, and repetition makes what was unthinkable now normal; the monstrous is made manageable. For mankind adapts to every horror."
You are right, everyone is free to spend their money however they like. I think loot boxes got a bad rap as well~! :^)

Well people do still buy them. Look at every Fifa game ever. It's still a thing and very profitable.

Diablo Immortal too. Nothing but seething hatred people had for it and it made millions. Still does. Monthly.

[Raoabolic]

Well people do still buy them. Look at every Fifa game ever. It's still a thing and very profitable.

Diablo Immortal too. Nothing but seething hatred people had for it and it made millions. Still does. Monthly.

So it's okay if you can trick the population into accepting it? It worked for EA for a while, let's see if SE can beat the high score~!

[GTK0HLK]

Yet that is no excuse.
should we let the few that either do not have controll of their faculties for various reasons.
or those who have either way more than the majority[who are willing to spend] or the few who don't have anything but still spend. Dictate what happens to the companies.
No, we should not.

The question of whether they spend or not doesn't matter. they will spend no matter what.
[just like some spend on retainers when the devs should do better, and demand better on some things. -I have multiple- but would still ask]

And no one is asking them to stop either.
unless it's those clearly anti-consumer games/media<a few you mentioned> actually meant to be negative.

This is Simply[cut and dry/clean] wanting a better shop, to then spend more in said shop.

if anyone thinks SE, or any company would experience less profits due to these or any changes. doesn't understand how people are waiting.

[kaynide]

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into it compared to any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.

That's the rub though, Square Enix owns everything that goes into the game, including MogStation glamour items. They have the right to price their wares at whatever price they want, and assuming sales happen, then capitalism "is working as intended". They are hardly ignorant of pricing and sales and surely have the data telling them where the sweet spot is to maximize profits. There is no reason to price anything "fairly". It boils down to people buying it or not, continuing to play or not, engaging in X or not; all of which gives them data on future pricing.

And so far, the data clearly shows things are selling at the current price point.

It is irrelevant if it is digital or not- if the product is selling for a higher price, they'd be a fool to reduce the price and take money away from your company/shareholders/staff. They're not running a charity.

This is exactly why craptastic games/movies quickly move to DVD, and certain titles like Zelda for Switch still sell for around $70 in Japan, despite being a 2017 title.

..and yet other 2017 AAA games like Horizon Zero Dawn are going for about $20.00. (60% sale off from 40$ish on Steam atm..but then again it's been on sale like 5 times this year)

Both fantastic games..but well, there's a reason why Nintendo calls Zelda/Mariokart/Smash Bros "evergreen".

These companies all know where there sweet pricing spot is to maximize as much profit as they can get.

[Raoabolic]

That's the rub though, Square Enix owns everything that goes into the game, including MogStation glamour items. They have the right to price their wares at whatever price they want, and assuming sales happen, then capitalism "is working as intended". They are hardly ignorant of pricing and sales and surely have the data telling them where the sweet spot is to maximize profits.

It is irrelevant if it is digital or not- if the product is selling for a higher price, they'd be a fool to reduce the price and take money away from your company/shareholders/staff. They're not running a charity.

This is exactly why craptastic games/movies quickly move to DVD, and certain titles like Zelda for Switch still sell for around $70 in Japan, despite being a 2017 title.

..and yet other 2017 AAA games like Horizon Zero Dawn are going for about $20.00. (60% sale off from 40$ish on Steam atm..but then again it's been on sale like 5 times this year)

These companies all know where there sweet pricing spot is to maximize as much profit as they can get.

Then they should not get upset when others pirate their software. Money is an issue to everyone, not just multimillion dollar companies so when they hold IPs hostage by turning games into a "live service" full of dlc and microtransactions then they should expect there will be pushback. It is nice seeing dev rants in the game files though, feels good when there are those out in the trenches that can still call a spade a spade even if they have to hide it in a .dat file, lol.

P.S. I hope they add denuvo to the switch games like nintendo is threatening to, I want to see what kind of hacky rigging denuvo will have to implement for switch carts~!