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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    So yes, As it was stated in game already, nobody cares about making the Garleans suffer.
    Wasn't there a massive plot point in the Garlemald section of the MSQ about how literally everyone wanted to just kill the Garleans and the Scions had to convince them not to? And I'm pretty sure that even though the Eorzeans in the contingent there got over that (and even then, not entirely), you still have... *checks notes* literally everyone else still wanting to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Wasn't there a massive plot point in the Garlemald section of the MSQ about how literally everyone wanted to just kill the Garleans and the Scions had to convince them not to? And I'm pretty sure that even though the Eorzeans in the contingent there got over that (and even then, not entirely), you still have... *checks notes* literally everyone else still wanting to.
    We also saw it with the end of the Dragonsong War with many Ishgardians still desiring vengeance for their fallen and working from the shadows to undermine attempts at forging peace with the Dravanians.

    We also see it in the present day in our world with people using social media to rant about things that happened before they were even born and demanding 'retribution' and 'reparations' from people who have no direct ties to the supposed misdeeds in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Wasn't there a massive plot point in the Garlemald section of the MSQ about how literally everyone wanted to just kill the Garleans and the Scions had to convince them not to? And I'm pretty sure that even though the Eorzeans in the contingent there got over that (and even then, not entirely), you still have... *checks notes* literally everyone else still wanting to.
    Might wanna read those quest again. I know you have trouble with that and I see you still haven't managed it but I shall implore you to read it again. Nobody in game said what you said. They did say the opposite though, considering the contingent's primary purpose was providing aid to the Garleans.

    As for the story itself it was good. I'm more interested in the state and affairs of all the former occupied nations and how they will get on but it is nice to know that the Garleans have some hope.
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    Last edited by thegreatonemal; 09-17-2022 at 08:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Might wanna read those quest again. I know you have trouble with that and I see you still haven't managed it but I shall implore you to read it again. Nobody in game said what you said. They did say the opposite though, considering the contingent's primary purpose was providing aid to the Garleans.
    Did we not read the same quest text? Because there were definitely several points where individuals in positions of power indicated a desire to deal rather..... harshly, we'll say, with the Garlean survivors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Did we not read the same quest text? Because there were definitely several points where individuals in positions of power indicated a desire to deal rather..... harshly, we'll say, with the Garlean survivors.
    There is one quest where a forced worker was rather shocked when we told him that we weren't here to kill all the Garleans. Seems you just didn't read the text at all. You might wanna go read it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    They did say the opposite though, considering the contingent's primary purpose was providing aid to the Garleans.
    Who said that? The scions and their close friends? The people who had to convince literally everyone else in the contingent to not kill the Garleans? Oh wow, I didn't know that, thank you Great Oatmeal. What great information. The people not looking to kill the Garleans and thus went and convinced everyone else to not kill them... weren't the ones trying to kill the Garleans. I was wrong when I read the story that said the Eorzean leaders sent the contingent to Garlemald to help the Garleans but most of the contingent just wanted to kill said Garleans. My apologies, I will be sure to refer to your version of events next time. I gotta say, this is some next level intelligence coming from Oatmeal guys, I think we should try eating some of the oats too, they seem to give lots of intelligence. /s

    Gee golly, it's almost like the people IN the contingent didn't share the same opinion as its leaders.

    (Might wanna fix the 'Gridinia' spelling. I know you have trouble with spelling it and I see you still haven't managed it but I shall implore you to try it again.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Did we not read the same quest text? Because there were definitely several points where individuals in positions of power indicated a desire to deal rather..... harshly, we'll say, with the Garlean survivors.
    Uh, you see, Oatmeal has this special power that when he eats his oats, he can see parts of the story that we mere mortals cannot. His oat vision allows him to see extra lines of dialogue that are beyond our comprehension.

    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    The devs aren't leery of real-world parallels, they just see things through rather black-and-white lenses lately which is ultimately a detriment to their storytelling.
    Case in point, Venat. Venat is a morally gray character that can be compared to real world figures that commit horrible crimes against humanity for the 'greater good', yet the writers cannot see things past a very black and white perspective. Ignore the screeching of SannaR as they get mad that someone said the V word.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 09-17-2022 at 08:12 AM.

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