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[Hoaxtopher]

Some back of the envelope calculations on my part

Assuming:

1. Squenix reporting of 24 mil accounts as of Oct 21 is both accurate and each is a distinct subscription

I'm pretty sure that the 24m number is the total accounts ever created for the game, not active subscriptions

[Iyrnthota]

I'm pretty sure that the 24m number is the total accounts ever created for the game, not active subscriptions

I dunno, I was doing some googling, and it looks like more recent estimates have total number of subscribers at over 30 mil.

I was going to quote them, but most seems to be pulling that figure from here:
https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv

[ForteNightshade]

I dunno, I was doing some googling, and it looks like more recent estimates have total number of subscribers at over 30 mil.

I was going to quote them, but most seems to be pulling that figure from here:
https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv

First and foremost, MMO-Population is a terrible website that has never once provided sources for their claims. Everything there should be completely disregarded.

Secondly, the whole 30-40 million players is just PR advertisement which ever game in the industry does. This number accounts for every single person who has ever registered an account, bots and trials included. If someone tried FFXIV for all of five minutes then uninstalled, they'll forever count in the "30 million players" advertisement. The reason companies stopped giving actual estimates dates back to WoW first fall from grace. Basically, Blizzard didn't want to advertise losing players. So they switched to "accounts made" despite still claiming it was the same thing. Other games have followed suit for similar reasons.

The best estimation we have of FFXIV's active playerbase is from an official census done by Lucky Bancho.

[Iyrnthota]

Hmm, looking further I'm not so sure. I googled WoW subscribers and got a place that claimed they have 4.8 mil, and there's no way ff has that many more.

You might be right that "subscribers" in the ways that these places count is defined as "people who have been subbed at least once at some point" not "people who are currently subbed"

Edit:

Okay, revised figures. on the assumption of 2.2 mil active players with all other assumptions being equal, that would be ~237 million annually, gross.

Which seeing it written down sounds a lot more reasonable (2 bil? Really?) .
Don't know that it changes my opinion mind.