SoS Normal, why the mandatory active time event?

[Gariored]

I recall doing this a few months ago in a DF run that ended in a vote disband because after the 4th fail even after being explained, we all (save one obviously) assumed we were being trolled.

So I'm all for either change the mech entirely or add a clear telltale mark on those who failed.

[Korbei]

It's kinda blowing my mind how many people are arguing in favor of smashing the buttons moar better.

It's a shit mechanic and it shouldn't exist in a game that costs real world money.

[Myrany]

Well this thread did do some good. Even after all these years I did not know that for Active time events you could mash keyboard keys instead of mouse clicking the button in the middle of the screen.

That tip will save me MUCH hand pain. So TY

[ICountFrom0]

It's kinda blowing my mind how many people are arguing in favor of smashing the buttons moar better.

It's a shit mechanic and it shouldn't exist in a game that costs real world money.

Do me a favour? Reply to this post with a quote of at least two (as you did say people, plural) people who are arguging for it, please? Not just two people who are explaining how to pass it, but people actively defending it and saying "this is WONDERFUL, we need more of it" kind of thing. I might have them blocked, but I THINK you quoting them will show up.

[Cheremia]

Do me a favour? Reply to this post with a quote of at least two (as you did say people, plural) people who are arguging for it, please? Not just two people who are explaining how to pass it, but people actively defending it and saying "this is WONDERFUL, we need more of it" kind of thing. I might have them blocked, but I THINK you quoting them will show up.

I‘m probably one of the „defenders“ because I keep showing up in SoS threads to tell people that hard-mashing is not the productive way to go about the QTE because it rubberbands really hard

Not like i defend it, it‘s just a feeling

Lol

Edit: Phonewriting hard...

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Personally, I don’t quite care if the mechanic is dumb or janky. Awkward snapshot? I will learn the actual timing eventually. Bad color palette? I will squint. Motion sickness? I will look away or just avoid this specific duty entirely. Mindless button mash? Sure whatever. I will try to play by their rule as far as I can.

What I have against with is the fact another’s mistake wipes the rest of the party without having any tells who exactly did that. I appreciate their intention to not single out the offender but at the same time, they also open up an abusable window for trollers—whom you cannot even block from joining your party due to how DF assembles each groups—to take advantage of & it baffles me how this gets a greenlight.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Give it an indicator in chat who failed, be done with it.

"<xy> fainted from the pressure of the realm..." so you know who needs tips for this.

As others mentioned, the AT-Event gives more progress at lower gauge levels and requires way less button presses than you may think. The implementation of this AT-Event is intentionally supposed to feel dreadful, that's the gamedesign in action in that moment, it's supposed to make you feel under pressure for sake of immersion (unless you know you are not).

Failure messages with fitting flavour text, case closed.

[Cheremia]

Give it an indicator in chat who failed, be done with it.

"<xy> fainted from the pressure of the realm..." so you know who needs tips for this.

As others mentioned, the AT-Event gives more progress at lower gauge levels and requires way less button presses than you may think. The implementation of this AT-Event is intentionally supposed to feel dreadful, that's the gamedesign in action in that moment, it's supposed to make you feel under pressure for sake of immersion (unless you know you are not).

Failure messages with fitting flavour text, case closed.

Best way is still to make everybody but the one that failed break free. That's how other QTEs of that sort do it (Shinryu).
Then it WILL be clear who failed

[Reinha]

Best way is still to make everybody but the one that failed break free. That's how other QTEs of that sort do it (Shinryu).
Then it WILL be clear who failed

The problem with that is that the person who failed will just get raised while still at level 80 not knowing how to tap the W key. That's how people end up at high levels unable to do something as simple as an active time maneuver which isn't even a new mechanic. They just had other people clean up and clear the fight for them before. There should be more mechanics everyone is forced to do correctly in order to clear. But I agree with the notion that it should be visible who failed.

[Cheremia]

The problem with that is that the person who failed will just get raised while still at level 80 not knowing how to tap the W key. That's how people end up at high levels unable to do something as simple as an active time maneuver which isn't even a new mechanic. They just had other people clean up and clear the fight for them before. There should be more mechanics everyone is forced to do correctly in order to clear. But I agree with the notion that it should be visible who failed.

I didn't say anything about the whole wipe or not, because it's neither here or there.
If it happens to new people, I tell them they don't need to mash hard to not let the bar empty because thats common misinformation
It never happened a lot to me otherwise

It was more to make clear WHO failed because knowing that isn't usually a bad idea. There are people that hide behind people not knowing who wiped them because it can happen suddenly.
If people know who trolls them (if it really happens 5 times, it has to be something else than just not being able to do so, since you can just type that the mechanic mashing is too hard to be able to be told that you don't need to mash), they can be kicked. Otherwise you just don't know