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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Not many people want to play Monk just to counter PLD, even if told to kill/stun/whatever plds it rarely happens. The frontlines i'm in usually have people say objectives, to disengage, to ignore certain objectives because last place can have them with no problems if not just outright ignored etc. There has not been a single time it was quiet when PLDs started cheesing the Objective, too. People following through is another thing tho.
    Like I said, the primary reason why NA/EU is having this issue: the lack of communication.
    To begin with, I never like Onsal Hakir even it may sounds I may sound I am defending it but I am only discuss about it from 3rd person's perspective (as someone dislike this mode)
    Every time I joined Onsal Hakir, I always ask my alliance to mark the PLD who attempts to use Cover to Capture so easier for me to stop it; but I usually get one of the following:

    1. total silence
    2. jerky response like you are not my mom
    3. Ranting and ranting but no mark

    I forgot that Monk existed tbh, so.... uh, yeah, Monk can also push people around. I forgot, even if I hate when monks do it to me, lmao, Stupid pingpong-cuddles...
    There ARE counterplays against it, not that i say there was not.
    It is not something new, not many will play against Monk in mode like Onsal Hakir due to EU/NA's Horde Stampede style as it is quite a challenge to even stay alive.

    But while it may push the PLD, the one they cover does not get pushed, right? Not sure how it interacted with that specific push right now.
    And it doesn't push through guard either tho, right?
    You pushed PLD 15M away to break Cover's 10M line; the target he is covering should be either killed by focus fire or Blota by Warrior away from caputre point

    It IS a thing and It IS a problem, plds can literally just wait with HG until after they got lbed, if they are not focused down they will not die after all.
    Especially if there's multiple of them, which happened more than once to me, too
    First of all, I haven't see multiple PLDs doing this at same time on Primal, but yeah our experience may differs.
    Also, point is not to kill the PLD, it is simply to break the Guardian line to render PLD becomes useless (they are literally useless this expansion on Frontline from my perspective anyway)

    Literally the easiest solution to not having one tactic that goes around the whole point of the mode, except you have any of the classes that counter it, which some people may not want to play (dancer range SUCKS and their lb also SUCKS, why do they have to shake so much before it works), is to make the pld in HG and the people they cover, being interrupted when attacked.
    Nothing more, i know you can still cc HG-ed Plds, but it still doesn't affect covered people.
    It is mostly the issue that the people they cover are immune to pretty much everything, not the pld themself, since cover cheese was always a thing, guard just made it worse.

    Nah, it is just EU/NA don't want to deal with it because majority just want an easy way out
    The counter play is already effective in play in Asian Onsal Hakir
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 09-15-2022 at 12:15 PM.