Online Store is Getting Worse!

[SassyAssassin]

Ugh dont get me started on Viera/Hrothgar...its been two years by this point it’s just ridiculous.
Why is Square (and some of the fans here) acting like they are such a small company with oh noes pay a lot for mogstation otherwise we have no monies to create hairstyles or let you use hats uwu, I mean come on, freaking modders in their basements made hats vailable so why can’t a sub to play game?
Honestly there is zero justification at this point.
Just like the lack of instanced housing and having to fight with other people to win a lottery for something most MMOS provide, in a sub game. You need to win the freaking lottery to own a house. In a game you pay monthly to play.
And if someone comes here saying “uh you dont NEED a house” well who are you to tell me what I need in a game we ALL PAY THE SAME PRICE FOR BUT NOT ALL GET THE SAME?

[hydralus]

Inflation so high even virtual items are going up in price.

[Reap00]

$22 for the latest set which is a freaking pajama hoodie...



It's never enough for Squeenix. Even during a sale store items are insanely overpriced. I couldn't buy anything this year because the prices are just too damned high for my meager budget. How do they justify these outrageously high prices? How do people justify paying them? $42 dollars for a mount? Who has that kind of money!?

Give us a break, Squeenix.

You act as if they are forcing you to purchase something. Give us a break with these threads.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Exactly, paying a sub would imply you get more benefits, and some games did or do that (Wildstar gave you points for subbing, same as SWTOR for the cash shop).

WoW's cash shop doesn't do much with this but that's because the best mounts are already in game, and there are only 2 toys and 3 transmog items and they're pretty much crap when you compare the many options in game, and the fact that there's the wardrobe which is what the dresser should be.

But in this game the sub gives you nothing other than access to the game, and that's it, and it's slowly but surely starting to feel more than a "Fee 2 Pay" than a "Pay 2 Play" kind of deal, where yes there's a lot of stuff in game...but if you want the ACTUAL GOOD STUFF then you must cash out a lot of money.

I would let this all slip if the items in shop were either cheap, or occasional updates, or were at least in game at one point (which was the initial point of the store, to sell older event items), but I think the other 22$ dress wasn't not even 3 months ago and we already got a new dress? They clearly know their priorities alright, but people are fine with it so nothing will change.

And if anyone will starts saying "bUt It'S oPtIoNaL"l" then I'll just say that everything in life is "optional" (yes even food: never heard of diets?), but at one point having too much, or too little, of everything is unhealthy and that the secret is to balance the two out.

Tbh they should bring back Veteran Rewards and that'd add a bit more to the sub imo

What's "actually good" is far to subjective to make a solid point. To me the Abyssos gear is better than anything that's ever been in the mogstation. Heck I'd say the same for the Troia gear too but that's again, subjective tbf.

Irl food and fictional clothing in a fictional game do not compare no matter how it's spun. Choose not to buy an outfit it effects nothing important. Choose not to eat? You're dead.

Also fee to pay? Come on now...that not even hyperbolic. That's just off. Most things are gained through in game means and that will always be the case.

[Ransu]

$22 for the latest set which is a freaking pajama hoodie...



It's never enough for Squeenix. Even during a sale store items are insanely overpriced. I couldn't buy anything this year because the prices are just too damned high for my meager budget. How do they justify these outrageously high prices? How do people justify paying them? $42 dollars for a mount? Who has that kind of money!?

Give us a break, Squeenix.

You could just....not buy anything on the store? I've only gotten one thing on the store and it was the chicken suite to meme during P3S with my static. I've never really felt the need to ever buy anything from the store.

[Bunnycake]

It is. lol

WHAT
/tenchara

[ameliaw]

Exactly, paying a sub would imply you get more benefits, and some games did or do that (Wildstar gave you points for subbing, same as SWTOR for the cash shop).

WoW's cash shop doesn't do much with this but that's because the best mounts are already in game, and there are only 2 toys and 3 transmog items and they're pretty much crap when you compare the many options in game, and the fact that there's the wardrobe which is what the dresser should be.

But in this game the sub gives you nothing other than access to the game, and that's it, and it's slowly but surely starting to feel more than a "Fee 2 Pay" than a "Pay 2 Play" kind of deal, where yes there's a lot of stuff in game...but if you want the ACTUAL GOOD STUFF then you must cash out a lot of money.

I would let this all slip if the items in shop were either cheap, or occasional updates, or were at least in game at one point (which was the initial point of the store, to sell older event items), but I think the other 22$ dress wasn't not even 3 months ago and we already got a new dress? They clearly know their priorities alright, but people are fine with it so nothing will change.

And if anyone will starts saying "bUt It'S oPtIoNaL"l" then I'll just say that everything in life is "optional" (yes even food: never heard of diets?), but at one point having too much, or too little, of everything is unhealthy and that the secret is to balance the two out.

The amount of stuff in the store really isn't ok for a sub based game, yes. The free glamours here usually aren't as good as the store stuff either. Also Wow's paid items can be obtained for """""""""""free"""""""""" as they come as a gift for buying 6 months of subscription.
FFXIV gets a lot of goodwill due to being the best thing in the market currently, but people shouldn't accept everything...

[Voltyblast]

Tbh they should bring back Veteran Rewards and that'd add a bit more to the sub imo

I agree, I remember waiting to resub just to get those rewards, it felt like my time was worth. Nowadays I have no clue how they work.

What's "actually good" is far to subjective to make a solid point. To me the Abyssos gear is better than anything that's ever been in the mogstation. Heck I'd say the same for the Troia gear too but that's again, subjective tbf

You're right, good or bad are subjective in most cases, but that's not the point here: the point is that we're paying 22 dollars (or 17.50 euros) for an item that while you might like/dislike it, it's getting way too pricy for a p2p game...which also asks you to pay additional fees for retainers, has 2 races that are essentially limited , and also can't add simple things like instancing housing or a better dresser (adding more slots won't really make it better).
And if we want to get to the point of liking or dislike, let's take your example and assume they will sell an armor that's just like the Abyssos raid in the cash shop for "higher" than 22 bucks, but it looks cooler, better, and you can even change the color of the effects.
Yeah you can still get the abyssos gear for free...but the actual cooler and better abyssos gear is in the shop. And it kinda makes you wonder if you should or not for that price.
And before you say "they will never do that", well they already have special armors being sold in the cash shop (the heavensward ones), including their weapons. So it's not completely impossible for this to actually happen. Let's hope not, but I already jinxed it so whatever!

Irl food and fictional clothing in a fictional game do not compare no matter how it's spun. Choose not to buy an outfit it effects nothing important. Choose not to eat? You're dead.

That's not the point of the comparison: the point is, and I quote myself

"Never put too much or too little into things"

Aka, you need to find a balance or risk creating a problem... also you can die if you have no clothes when it's cold outside, because too little clothing can do that. But you can also get hurt by too much clothing.
Again, the comparison isn't the point, the meaning behind is.

Also fee to pay? Come on now...that not even hyperbolic. That's just off. Most things are gained through in game means and that will always be the case.

Can you get any of those items - EXCEPT the ones from previous events - like sleipnir, the bike, this current outfit, the deride emote, and all of those fancy costumes from the mogshop ingame WITHOUT requiring to pay real money?

Sure most "things" are also gained through in game...but a good chunk of "most" things are also locked behind the shop with no way to obtain them otherwise.

Afterall if we could get them ingame through other means we wouldn't be here wasting time in this thread, now would we?

[caffe_macchiato]

It's never enough for Squeenix.

Square Enix is a very poor company. They need to put food on the table, and it's not fair that we only pay $13 a month when that doesn't even cover one person's lunch in downtown Tokyo. In fact, the fat cat set was cheaper than my Uber Eats meal. I consider it a charitable donation to such a talented company that has given us this game for such a low price. Let's be honest, if we could pay an extra amount in sub money for maybe a donation badge or perhaps a special title, wouldn't we all do it? Now imagine that title or badge but inside of your heart. Giving to the less fortunate makes us all feel good inside.

[Midareyukki]

Square Enix is a very poor company. They need to put food on the table, and it's not fair that we only pay $13 a month when that doesn't even cover one person's lunch in downtown Tokyo. In fact, the fat cat set was cheaper than my Uber Eats meal. I consider it a charitable donation to such a talented company that has given us this game for such a low price. Let's be honest, if we could pay an extra amount in sub money for maybe a donation badge or perhaps a special title, wouldn't we all do it? Now imagine that title or badge but inside of your heart. Giving to the less fortunate makes us all feel good inside.

Is this bait?