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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you must not have to leave your house much, since doing so would have many things "shoved in your face" that you may want only to realize somebody had to buy them at a store. this has to be one of the less well reasoned "takes" on the whole thing.
    I'm not entirely sure what your point is here.
    "Advertising exists in real life, so it's okay in this game"?
    Am I to draw a direct parallel to strolling through my local city center and strolling through the Limsa plaza?

    I should hope I'm not the first one to tell you this, but games aren't real life, and nor should they be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I will argue, however, that is is "shoved in your face". Any time you see a glam someone bought from the Mogstation, it is being advertised to you. Anytime you see a mount you might like that it turns out is Mogstation exclusive, it is being advertised to you. Anytime someone emotes at you using a Mogstation exclusive mount, it is being advertised to you.
    In that case, the entire world is an advertisement being shoved in your face. Everyone you see walking down the street is an advertisement for the clothes they're wearing. Everyone holding a branded drink cup in their hand is an advertisement for that company. Every car on the highway is an advertisement for that car maker.

    Do you get upset that all those things are getting shoved in your face? Or do you only act that ridiculous over items in a game that you want but don't want to pay for?

    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    The burden of proof there would probably rest on the people saying that they do put it back into the game. Yes, Yoshi has said it's the case but is there any actual evidence? I'm not likely to believe that, especially given Square's recent track record of spaffing money up the wall on stupid things (i.e NFT's)
    Unless someone is a registered investor in Square Enix, they don't have any right to that type of information beyond whatever public disclosures are required by law.

    If you think a company is engaging in shady accounting practices, why are you doing business with them? Why not go find a game where you feel the company is properly investing back in their product?
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-15-2022 at 10:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    In that case, the entire world is an advertisement being shoved in your face. Everyone you see walking down the street is an advertisement for the clothes they're wearing. Everyone holding a branded drink cup in their hand is an advertisement for that company. Every car on the highway is an advertisement for that car maker.
    Yes, it is.
    Do you get upset that all those things are getting shoved in your face?
    Yes, I do, and I do my very best to avoid them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Yes, it is.

    Yes, I do, and I do my very best to avoid them.
    Somehow I doubt that. If you were truly affected that badly, you wouldn't be subscribed to the game in the first place. You'd be cowering in a closet somewhere with your eyes clenched shut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    Unless someone is a registered investor in Square Enix, they don't have any right to that type of information beyond whatever public disclosures are required by law.

    If you think a company is engaging in shady accounting practices, why are you doing business with them? Why not go find a game where you feel the company is properly investing back in their product?
    You misunderstand me. I am under no delusion that Square should publish any of that information. I'm simply saying that there's no reason to believe the claim that they're re-investing mog station money directly into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    You misunderstand me. I am under no delusion that Square should publish any of that information. I'm simply saying that there's no reason to believe the claim that they're re-investing mog station money directly into the game.
    There's no reason to believe they're not. People will have their opinions on what's being done, but the fact is the service remains pretty consistent and they're doing more and adding more.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 09-15-2022 at 10:40 PM.

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    It's not even quality at this point which is the real shame.
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    My cash shop wishlist (in no particular order):
    1. Let us buy items/hairstyles separate from sets.
    2. Make all the cosmetic items (glamour, mounts, minions, etc) be account-wide.
    3. Make cash shop items storeable in the armoire.
    4. Better prices for sets. We have glamour sets that are only 3 items and others that have 5 but they both cost $18.

    ✧*。٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*。
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post

    Mogstation is far removed from the game and isn't shoved in your face by any means. So if this is deemed predatory is on the lowest scale. If the cost is to high for you for whatever reason do what I and many others do and simply don't buy it
    I don't really complain with every item in the mogstation but stuff like the Pagaga emote where it has been teased from a npc that you fight 3 times in 3 different fates with field notes and all, made fanart since ShB's Bozja and only to be put in a freaking shop stings, you know?

    Am i going to buy the emote? I don't know, it might be my first emote that i really want from the shop and it just rubs me in the wrong way.
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    Ugh dont get me started on Viera/Hrothgar...its been two years by this point it’s just ridiculous.
    Why is Square (and some of the fans here) acting like they are such a small company with oh noes pay a lot for mogstation otherwise we have no monies to create hairstyles or let you use hats uwu, I mean come on, freaking modders in their basements made hats vailable so why can’t a sub to play game?
    Honestly there is zero justification at this point.
    Just like the lack of instanced housing and having to fight with other people to win a lottery for something most MMOS provide, in a sub game. You need to win the freaking lottery to own a house. In a game you pay monthly to play.
    And if someone comes here saying “uh you dont NEED a house” well who are you to tell me what I need in a game we ALL PAY THE SAME PRICE FOR BUT NOT ALL GET THE SAME?
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    Last edited by SassyAssassin; 09-15-2022 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Typos

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