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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Nah, man don't you know we're just supposed to go to a bar and pick up 4-8 randos. Who cares if the WoL might have a chance of eating or drinking drugged food while surveying our options.
    And people think my positions are the unreasonable ones. The above statement speaks for itself, and more.

    I think I'll take the randos and whatever else happens at the bar, be it fights, having the WoL be drugged again, or otherwise. I am not interested in nor can I sympathize with a character who just shows up and wins. That isn't a story, it's a power fantasy. Almost turning into a Sin Eater back in Shadowbringers was at least something in the way of stakes but nowadays it seems that all we need to do is wait for a crystal to drop into our hands and solve all our problems with it, usually delivered by the same immortal cast members who cannot suffer or be replaced. Instead we have to hear about the sole few traumas they endured 10 years ago by not the story, but by the community that uses them to justify their continued presence no matter how little value they contribute to the story.

    This game has a continuous story that is added on to over time. The Scions have failed to have any significant development no matter how much time seems to pass. If all that can be done are 1-off events that define these characters then it is indeed better to have a rotating cast of fresh faces every 2 years so that the audience isn't pushed to the state we've reached now.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 09-14-2022 at 10:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    And people think my positions are the unreasonable ones. The above statement speaks for itself, and more.

    I think I'll take the randos and whatever else happens at the bar, be it fights, having the WoL be drugged again, or otherwise. I am not interested in nor can I sympathize with a character who just shows up and wins. That isn't a story, it's a power fantasy. Almost turning into a Sin Eater back in Shadowbringers was at least something in the way of stakes but nowadays it seems that all we need to do is wait for a crystal to drop into our hands and solve all our problems with it, usually delivered by the same immortal cast members who cannot suffer or be replaced. Instead we have to hear about the sole few traumas they endured 10 years ago by not the story, but by the community that uses them to justify their continued presence no matter how little value they contribute to the story.

    This game has a continuous story that is added on to over time. The Scions have failed to have any significant development no matter how much time seems to pass. If all that can be done are 1-off events that define these characters then it is indeed better to have a rotating cast of fresh faces every 2 years so that the audience isn't pushed to the state we've reached now.
    I was being sarcastic. As that's the answer I get when I ask how would some write going about getting a whole new set of friends. I get met with "It's easy the WoL would just go to a bar and pick up a bunch of randos." and that no other thought would need to be had. Cause who cares about the last time we invited people we didn't know to something. I mean we totally didn't get backstabbed and framed for murder. Also totally don't mind or bring up the fact the last time the WoL went to a bar alone where people we were to ment to meet weren't already there or were already eating or drinking they got served a drugged drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I was being sarcastic. As that's the answer I get when I ask how would some write going about getting a whole new set of friends. I get met with "It's easy the WoL would just go to a bar and pick up a bunch of randos." and that no other thought would need to be had. Cause who cares about the last time we invited people we didn't know to something. I mean we totally didn't get backstabbed and framed for murder. Also totally don't mind or bring up the fact the last time the WoL went to a bar alone where people we were to ment to meet weren't already there or were already eating or drinking they got served a drugged drink.
    Just pretend it didnt happen.
    Sit here and bring up character development and how it gets undone, then in the same breath tell the WoL to undo any development they could have had by just walking into a bar and allowing themselves; once again, to get drugged, just cause. Like they never learned their lesson from the past few times its happened. Compelling adventure. Get drugged, Again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Just pretend it didnt happen.
    Sit here and bring up character development and how it gets undone, then in the same breath tell the WoL to undo any development they could have had by just walking into a bar and allowing themselves; once again, to get drugged, just cause. Like they never learned their lesson from the past few times its happened. Compelling adventure. Get drugged, Again.
    More likely to happen is some person from a side quest that most of the playerbase forgot about shows up and gushes over us and thanks us yet again for saving them or helping them change their life for the better. Only to have their friend or loved one and maybe the rest of the bar all go "Wait that's the WoL!? I thought they'd look different." Either that or some one who feels we wronged notices us and foolishly tries to start crap. But yes you're correct we should just ignore all that and a bag of chips. Silly me.
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    And people think my positions are the unreasonable ones
    As to your position...Ive asked you some very relevant questions, and am waiting for an answer. Funny how you seem to gloss over those.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 09-14-2022 at 11:38 AM.