Patch 6.21 Notes

[Absurdity]

So, how staggering is the damage variance between

Group A: GNB/DRK/AST/SCH/MNK/NIN/DNC/BLM
Group B: PLD/WAR/WHM/SGE/DRG/BRD/MCH/RDM

I'd replace the DRG with a RPR, but also you won't know how staggering the difference is since group B would've never made it past the phase 1 enrage and you would have no data to compare. Even if you replaced the bard with the reaper and get double melee you still wouldn't make it, let alone with 3 ranged dps, 2 of which are underperforming.

[Kuroka]

Question.

What's their problem with people having accessibility?


For real. I'm asking because we USED to be able to plop waymarks down wherever in the middle of combat. Now we can't. Becauuuuse...? Is it because of the ability to save waymarks? Should that not be a thing that people might want to fix, since it'd be packaging a bug and calling it a feature?

Because people ABUSED it to solve mechanics, just like they cheated now again..

[IDontPetLalas]

That's a long way of saying SCH takes skill to execute properly. It also helps when your teammates aren't going the wrong way and taking you down with them.

That's your point of view, other people might say that it isn't very intelligent design not to allow for scenarios that could arise for another players mistakes (as well as their own, of course). Some people could well find it frustrating instead of challenging to find the job design fighting them instead of smoothly working with them to allow for them to get up and back into action as quickly as possible as the other healers can do.

[Midareyukki]

Because people ABUSED it to solve mechanics, just like they cheated now again..

Okay, and? It was abused... and so we're going to do away with a function that helped more than it harmed? Okay then.

Against the sworn enemy no sacrifice is too great or something.

That's LITERALLY Ascian rethoric >:U

[Saraide]

Okay, and? It was abused... and so we're going to do away with a function that helped more than it harmed? Okay then.

Against the sworn enemy no sacrifice is too great or something.

[Axxion]

Lately it seems like they want to push things out asap and test said things later. I mean, I get it. They are never going to foresee every possible outcome, but they seem to be handling various things recently like Blizzard has with WoW the last few years. Just shoving things out the door without proper testing and listening to feedback. It is slightly out of character for them, but I kinda figured we would get to this point eventually.

I can agree with this. Speaking for myself when i say this. I wanted them to focus on the quality over quantity of it. If it takes them longer to polish and refine things so be it. Haste make waste

[Iyrnthota]

Lately it seems like they want to push things out asap and test said things later. I mean, I get it. They are never going to foresee every possible outcome, but they seem to be handling various things recently like Blizzard has with WoW the last few years. Just shoving things out the door without proper testing and listening to feedback. It is slightly out of character for them, but I kinda figured we would get to this point eventually.

I think, if I'm reading them correctly, the reason for this nerf is sort of the opposite of pushing things out.

They spent extra time on this raid tier, so the testing team that clear the content had extra time to get used to and learn the mechanics.
They essentially balanced the DPS check assuming a few weeks of practice on the fight, rather than a up to a week prog level of DPS.

However, as extra time was dedicated to testing this battle, the team's overall performance proved to be higher than usual

Emphasis mine.

That's their explaination anyhow.

I can believe it, but I still think they did not properly test the all different jobs, because as others have pointed out, even a perfect/near perfect run with a "non-meta" comp would find it extremely difficult, if not impossible to clear. Particularly with bad damage variance.

I'm inclined to believe that they did in fact balance the check based on extra practice with the fight that the testing team had that we would not, but I believe they did all this extra practice on a pretty "meta" comp. Likely no PLD/MCH for example.
To me it's the only thing that makes sense for them allegedly spending so much extra time testing, but still managing to completely miss the job imbalance.