Another Patch another middle finger to DRKs

[Kalaam]

It's fine for DRK to not get a full rework in a mini patch designed to stop people from locking PLD/WAR out of parties.

Oh yes absolutely.
I just meant to say that DRK have other reasons to complain and have been for a long time now.

[CKNovel]

Dark knight?

DPS wise it's among the highest for a very flexible rotation.
Mitigation wise it has access to the very unique Dark Mind that works on... Almost all tank busters.
It has access to TBN, while tied to DPS resources, is an excellent tool.
Oblation is weak but its strength relies on its flexibility, if it was any stronger, it would be broken.
Living Dead is the second best Invuln.

If anything, it's the DRK that gives the middle finger to other tanks.

I agree that the rotation has many problems but the rest is chef kiss.

[Malthir]

Yes, in savage raids they are good. but for the rest of the 99% of the content..........

Imagine buying a car that they say can do 0-60 in 2 seconds, but only on a specifically flat track on specific weather conditions, then when you're driving on the roads it handles like a bag of crap. That's the equivalency here.

War's and Paladins getting locked out, only very specific groups are doing this. I feel for paladins they've been brutalised so many times they need some love, WAR's however, remember when a WAR solo'd P1 like a week after release?!

[HyonaCookie]

Last time I said DRK should be buffed for dungeons, I was told it was a skill issue.

[CKNovel]

Yes, in savage raids they are good. but for the rest of the 99% of the content..........

Savage and Extreme*

The remaining contents in this expansion are:
-Dungeons
-PvP
-Treasure maps
-Hunts

PvP has its own balancing, dungeon don't need much balancing, if you struggle in dungeon you can simply pull smaller packs. But DRK has no troubles going through wall to wall pulls.
Treasures maps are easy, hunts don't need job balancing.

[LoadedVirus]

If you wanna be a tank, dps and healer just go Gunbreaker, its what I did and don't regret it.

[Malthir]

Savage and Extreme*

The remaining contents in this expansion are:
-Dungeons
-PvP
-Treasure maps
-Hunts

PvP has its own balancing, dungeon don't need much balancing, if you struggle in dungeon you can simply pull smaller packs. But DRK has no troubles going through wall to wall pulls.
Treasures maps are easy, hunts don't need job balancing.

Wall to wall as a Drk is a sweatfest in alot of dungeons, especially the experts which is what you do the most of.

[Rithy255]

I'm all for a dark knight rework but at the same time, it's not even a major content update patch, Paladin and warrior needed to be addressed.

Dark Knight while not fun to play (In my opinion it's one of the least fun tanks right now) Is still pretty good in raids, I'm all for a dark knight rework, mainly from a rotation standpoint for me, I feel like it needs to be more of a dark magic tank, shouldn't be a paladin copy either but It really should fit it's class fantasy more, I'd also like to see some defensives changed, given *Some* self sustain, not warrior/pld levels but it would be fun if drk got some "drain" mechs, I'd still like dark knight to be about big protective barriers (this time it doesn't punish your dps!).

Yeah I don't think dark knight design wise generally has been in a great spot it feels like they slapped on big numbers so less people would complain.

[SargeTheSeagull]

Dude you green barsed Aglaia on dark knight, you don't know what you're talking about.

[wyznwyb]

funnily enough, dark knight is one of the only jobs in the game right now that actually feels good when playing around 2 minute bursts, mostly because it's the only one that was obviously designed around pooling resources for short, regular burst windows, when almost every other job has either been awkwardly forced into a kind of burst window it simply wasn't designed for (gunbreaker), or didn't adapt to them at all and are awful for it (paladin). its sustain isn't to the point where healers can AFK in dungeons, sure (and, to be clear, no tank should have warrior levels of sustain in dungeons, period), but in the raid environment where that balance actually matters, dark knight's mitigation is the strongest by a wide margin, and TBN remains the best mitigation in the game by leaps and bounds. not only has square made it clear that they don't consider this a problem, but arguably every single EW addition tanks have gotten to their mitigation has been so everyone can have their own version of TBN, a way to turn every single tankbuster into "press your TBN equivalent and then press another mitigation of your choice".

this is a dark knight's expansion now, and especially with how they described paladin this patch, they're explicitly letting you know that they will sooner change every tank to play more like dark knight than they will admit that maybe dark knight ought to play less like dark knight