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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    "The team's overall performance proved to be higher than usual."
    It's a straight up lie and considering this explanation is aimed at the high end raiders, who pretty much all use fflogs, meters and analyze numbers very thoroughly, I don't understand how they expected us to believe it. I can only assume they don't care if we believe it and hope the casual players will latch onto the excuse and drown our voices out.

    Mathematically, a non-meta comp at min ilv with no deaths, no damage downs and near perfect uptime and rotation was short on the enrage by at least 500 dps or so. It was logged, proven, it's just fact. There's no room to "git good" or practice it, the comp literally cannot produce more dps. Their secret god-tier dev team is a fabrication.

    The dev team is sadly going the way of Blizzard. Arrogance, dislike for the players, "we know best", lies, excuses and sweeping things under the rug. All they had to say was "we screwed up job balance, our fault, we'll fix it, sorry". That's it.
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Mathematically, a non-meta comp at min ilv with no deaths, no damage downs and near perfect uptime and rotation was short on the enrage by at least 500 dps or so. It was logged, proven, it's just fact. There's no room to "git good" or practice it, the comp literally cannot produce more dps.
    Thanks I will take that as a fair and good answer to my naïve question!
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's a straight up lie and considering this explanation is aimed at the high end raiders, who pretty much all use fflogs, meters and analyze numbers very thoroughly, I don't understand how they expected us to believe it. I can only assume they don't care if we believe it and hope the casual players will latch onto the excuse and drown our voices out.

    Mathematically, a non-meta comp at min ilv with no deaths, no damage downs and near perfect uptime and rotation was short on the enrage by at least 500 dps or so. It was logged, proven, it's just fact. There's no room to "git good" or practice it, the comp literally cannot produce more dps. Their secret god-tier dev team is a fabrication.

    The dev team is sadly going the way of Blizzard. Arrogance, dislike for the players, "we know best", lies, excuses and sweeping things under the rug. All they had to say was "we screwed up job balance, our fault, we'll fix it, sorry". That's it.
    Is this common with FFXIV? To basically just have imbalanced jobs and then hide it by slowly increasing the ilvl so eventually all comps can do it by essentially brute-forcing it? that seems pretty nasty for those that really enjoy the harder content in the game.

    I'm about as casual as you can get, but I think you guys/girls/people deserve better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's a straight up lie and considering this explanation is aimed at the high end raiders, who pretty much all use fflogs, meters and analyze numbers very thoroughly, I don't understand how they expected us to believe it.
    And I don't understand why people are so willing to believe the devs are lying instead.

    Sure, they could be lying, but to what end? Historically they're not afraid to admit they've made balancing errors, so why would they suddenly start lying about it now? Who benefits by lying instead of just saying "sorry, we over tuned the fight"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    And I don't understand why people are so willing to believe the devs are lying instead.

    Sure, they could be lying, but to what end? Historically they're not afraid to admit they've made balancing errors, so why would they suddenly start lying about it now? Who benefits by lying instead of just saying "sorry, we over tuned the fight"?
    They also have no reason to lie either technically. There's a lot of ways they can easily twist things around to suit whatever purpose they might need without having to outright lie and put themselves in a position where they can be caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    And I don't understand why people are so willing to believe the devs are lying instead.
    Because 1) SE has lied to us in the past, and 2) When SE's response is essentially "Our testing team is just too good to accurately represent our idiot playerbase so we'll nerf it for you plebs", it's easy to assume that they're willing to lie to us as well.
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