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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    - A male Roegadyn marine who fights as a scholar using advanced military arts, with a grand and rough around the edges personality who enjoys drinking and gambling. With a dominant and unyielding demeanor, he puts individuals like Y'shtola in their rightful place when they begin to act out of turn or unjustly haughty.

    - A female Au Ra shamaness from the far east who is deeply devoted to her religious practices and is torn between her love of her people and the world beyond the Ruby Sea. Seeing the world with fresh eyes, she forms a deep connection with the people she encounters and tries to be friendly, mediating between any rivalries between the party.

    - A female Hrothgar priestess who was sent forth from her temple to assist the party, following the fate foretold to her by the stars in order to safeguard her people's future. Despite knowing that she may have to perform the ultimate sacrifice, she marches forward toward her fate with unflinching conviction, with her truest feelings being those of deep affection for her travelling companions.

    - A male Viera necromancer who pursues the dark arts in an attempt to bring back the loved ones he has lost to war, plague, or both. With a standoffish and melancholy personality, he slowly comes to terms with his loss and despite his inability to fully restore them to their original state, their spirits never fail to answer his call in battle.
    Why do all the guys have to be standoffish and gruff and the women soft and affectionate? Between this, the way you harp on about "masculinity" in only a traditional manner, the comment earlier that we need someone gentle like Yuna or Vanille, and the idea from earlier that having intelligent women in the party is somehow minimizing the men in the party, whether you intend to do so or not, you're coming out with an incredibly misogynistic viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Why do all the guys have to be standoffish and gruff and the women soft and affectionate?
    Because you rarely see that in entertainment anymore. When it happens, it's a breath of fresh air, lol.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Because you rarely see that in entertainment anymore, lol.
    ...you mean the thing very common in this game through the story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    ...you mean the thing very common in this game through the story?
    Show me some examples post HW. At most I will give you Gosestu but those types are a huge minority. Just because something isn't 100% doesn't mean it's not 95%...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Because you rarely see that in entertainment anymore. When it happens, it's a breath of fresh air, lol.
    Precisely this. Again, it is incredibly frustrating when posters take what is nothing more than a suggestion and try to twist it into painting me as a villain, again. I've lost track of how many times this has happened. Apparently asking for male Highlanders to have some straight nose options was also something that a different poster tried to twist against me. I simply cannot understand that kind of logic. Then again, there are also numerous FFXIV players who have accused those of us who question the way in which Venat was portrayed in Endwalker as hating women so I suppose none of these words mean anything anymore and thus whatever power they once held has been rendered moot.

    In any case I know who to I will refrain from interacting with in the future, because I refuse to deal with posters who are going to hurl such accusations against me. I gave some suggestions as to who could be included to make this cast more likeable. There was nothing to derive any sort of offense from in that post. I despise the way that modern media has pushed the inversion of gender roles to the point where sticking to their original form is now considered outside the norm. The balance was offset, I say bring it back to a healthier state wherein there's enough give and take for both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Precisely this. Again, it is incredibly frustrating when posters take what is nothing more than a suggestion and try to twist it into painting me as a villain, again. I've lost track of how many times this has happened. Apparently asking for male Highlanders to have some straight nose options was also something that a different poster tried to twist against me. I simply cannot understand that kind of logic.

    In any case I know who to I will refrain from interacting with in the future, because I refuse to deal with posters who are going to hurl such accusations against me. I gave some suggestions as to who could be included to make this cast more likeable. There was nothing to derive any sort of offense from in that post. I despise the way that modern media has pushed the inversion of gender roles to the point where sticking to their original form is now considered outside the norm. The balance was offset, I say bring it back to a healthier state wherein there's enough give and take for both sides.
    You went against the mob. Are you really that shocked how it turned out? Just enjoy the descent and crack some jokes along the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You went against the mob. Are you really that shocked how it turned out? Just enjoy the descent and crack some jokes along the way!
    Indeed. In any case I only hope that such posters are not so quick to mischaracterize others the same way they do me. The sort of angles they seem to push are regularly rejected by current-day audiences, I only hope that FFXIV begins reversing the trends that brought us to this point someday as well. Linking it back to Krile, again she really is the last thing that would solve any of the grievances that people have with the current cast of FFXIV.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You went against the mob. Are you really that shocked how it turned out? Just enjoy the descent and crack some jokes along the way!
    There was a Mob? Where?
    But hey, I agree, have some fun and crack jokes. Its really not THAT serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Linking it back to Krile, again she really is the last thing that would solve any of the grievances that people have with the current cast of FFXIV.
    We dont know how she will be in the future. All we know is we will see more of her and she will take more of a lead role. How they is executed has yet to be seen. Id rather judge its execution rather then judge something that hasnt even happened yet.
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 09-13-2022 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    There was a Mob? Where?
    But hey, I agree, have some fun and crack jokes. Its really not THAT serious.
    Just a reminder, statistically you would be in the crowd cheering as the romans crucified Jesus! :^D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Just a reminder, statistically you would be in the crowd cheering as the romans crucified Jesus! :^D
    ......wut?
    Are you being serious and trying to make a point...or is this just a Dig at the Helmet Im wearing? XD
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