"Melee jobs" in Frontlines

[RydiaFey]

Yes, some DR for melee makes sense, however not a flat rate for each melee job. Rather than changing DR due to this, i would prefer that SE created/improved the Frontlines and Rival Wings tutorial for new players. Unfortunately I don't think they will

I also disagree with the position of balancing that based upon whether people are struggling because whether they are new or not "hardcore". There is no gear that blocks someone from PVP in this game, they can just jump right in and they could be in the same match as someone who has played 1000 matches. I have no problem with that, in fact as someone who had to grind without end to get the best PVP in other games I think it's great- but I do expect that the veteran players will likely wipe the map with the newer players. That also means that the people that may join only once in while are likely not going to do as well as those players who PVP every day for a variety of reasons (no focus, not looking at their map, not knowing their skills, etc).
That's no more "hardcore" that those people who have a static for savage or unreal content. It wouldn't be seen as normal to ask for balance change for players who never do that level of content to PVE skills - you are applying the same type of request in PVP.

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I like your view on this. Thanks

Even though I do miss collecting gear to use in pvp, I know it was for the best to remove it.

Gathering gear from different parts of the game and getting all your accessories correct so you would survive a melee limit break in the old 8v8 arenas was still some of the most fun I've had in ffxiv. Jobs had their full kits, you could que with friends, and it was just great.

Oh and frontlines could que with just 24 people at odd hours of the night instead of the que just going dead at midnight. Pretty much the height of ffxiv pvp. I really hate to say it, but It's all been going downhill since they removed most of our abilities after heavensward. I like the rework, but it will never be as deep as the old system was.

[Karasio]

Oh and frontlines could que with just 24 people at odd hours of the night instead of the que just going dead at midnight. Pretty much the height of ffxiv pvp. I really hate to say it, but It's all been going downhill since they removed most of our abilities after heavensward. I like the rework, but it will never be as deep as the old system was.

Oh yeah! I didn't even notice them phasing out 8v8v8 frontlines