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  1. #11
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    Agnes Nimue
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    Midgardsormr
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    Usually, maybe. But those 2 fights I talked about had no underperforming sprouts. Just a first-timer who wants to get through the story and said that they didn't fail, and someone who wants to waste people's time. Either way, the fact that we can't tell who's failing it is an issue. It should be like Hades where only the people who fail die.
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  2. #12
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Active time events are such a useless gimmick. Hate the darned things.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  3. #13
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    Momo Kozuki
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Active time events are such a useless gimmick. Hate the darned things.

    Agreed. I hate the sound effect too. Extremely immersion-breaking.
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  4. #14
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Every single time I've run this fight and we fail more than one time in a row:

    "Just fyi.. you can push ALL the buttons and they count. Controller or keyboard as long as it's not "chat""

    next time: Pass.
    (5)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #15
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    You can tell who failed, just vote kick if it happens again.
    Instead of votekicking, maybe explain to that person how it works?

    A lot of PC players assume the button in the middle of the screen must be mouse clicked and despite having the seen active time manuevers a few times before this, they don't understand that's incorrect unless someone tells them. That leads to failure because depending on the mouse or joint problems in your hand you won't be able to click that fast.

    So if someone fails, ask if they're using mouse/keyboard and let them know the button doesn't have to be clicked. Instead, they can just rapidly mash keyboard buttons. They'll learn something new and they'll have a better experience for it while the group will hopefully stop wiping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Active time events are such a useless gimmick. Hate the darned things.
    Also agreed. I don't know why the developers think they're an engaging mechanic.

    But we're stuck with them so have to make the best of the situation.
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  6. #16
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCrow View Post
    It should really only kill players that fail it
    I disagree. The game should have more (not very difficult) mechanics that simply do not allow the player to clear until it's done correctly. It's ok to wipe when learning. Vote abandon is always an option if someone is trolling.
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  7. #17
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I mean, it's always the underperformers
    So... the way to find out who wasn't clicking fast enough, is to use a third party mod, and then arbitrarally blame the person with the lowest number, even if there's no sign that it was them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    "Just fyi.. you can push ALL the buttons and they count. Controller or keyboard as long as it's not "chat""

    I mean, that's patently not true. MOST active battle fights are properly coded, and things like the key bound to "reply" don't open the chat window and force you into it, but for some reason this fight still causes all your hotkeys to various things to still work, and that can lead to some VERY strange things instead. We've even HAD a post in this topic about that happening.

    THIS time it has to be keys that arn't bound to... well, a LOT of things. I stick to just wasd, and the mouse buttons. I could probably also hammer the number pad, or run down 1 to 9, but that's a bit overkill. Problem is this one is a marathon, not a sprint, so people hammer quickly at the start, too quickly, and cramp up or get tired. I mean, we ALL know this here, because we've passed but... yhaknow, find a spot that matches a pace your comfortable with, the 50% spot is okay, 33% is actually pretty easy, just be ready to put on a sprint at the end at the sound effect.
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    Last edited by ICountFrom0; 09-12-2022 at 09:58 PM.

  8. #18
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    Agreed. I hate the sound effect too. Extremely immersion-breaking.
    Agreed.
    Mindlessly mashing random buttons to fill a bar has nothing to do with combat, skill, the chosen class and the fight itself. It doesn't give off a sense of urgency or danger, if anything it breaks the immersion of a big fight even more. Enrage bars filling is a much better way to create a sense of urgency and coming doom.
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  9. #19
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    yes remove this boring mechanic
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  10. #20
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    These active time events are just silly.

    The true test of the Warrior of Light is spamming the same button quickly for 10 seconds.

    That proves something, I guess?
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