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  1. #201
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    After 10 years of having our exposition character be a catgirl I am not sure that a female Lalafell is a suitable replacement. As I've mentioned before, concentrating all the brains in the party in the female party members makes them come across as preachy while making the men look less intelligent by comparison. Despite Urianger being such a learned individual he did not grate on people's patience as much as Y'shtola did, and I think we can do without a repeat of her in the form of Krile.

    I do however support the addition of men of the burlier races, including Hrothgar, to the main cast. There was a highly offensive insinuation made by another poster that an Iron Bull sort of character wouldn't be "masculine" enough on account of their sexuality but that could not be further from the truth. So long as the character's behavior is not offputting in the same vein as G'raha Tia's is and they present themselves in an appropriate manner, I see no reason as to why such a request would be denied. From loud and roudy warriors like Iron Bull to more chivalrous types of personalities, it is not impossible for beauty to be found in the beast.
    I agree. Masculinity doesn't always have to be ridiculous stereotypical viking men oozing testosterone and leaking mental capacity. That's for Warrior Mains (:P).

    Iron Bull-type characters can and DO fit the game. The Draph from Granblue Fantasy, for example. And if you can't associate such physique to intelligence, then allow me to introduce you to the Draph most people think of, who is a detective.


    Sure, narrative wise, he often fails at his Sherlock Scan ability, but it's a thing that's played for laughs. If you look at that aesthetic on a Draph and think it works for a detective, so too can it work for a Qunari and similar.

    As for chivalry...

    ...I mean, we have the Hrothgar right here. Have you seen their emotes? They're not all feral. And their lore is highly associated to Gunbreaker for a reason.

    We do need better representation of male characters still appearing and acting masculine while being intelligent.
    Urianger is rather flamboyant.
    Alphinaud is jovial and androgynous.
    G'raha is an absolute bottom.
    And while I don't condone people saying that those sorts of people aren't valid in real life, the inverse also bothers me: neglecting that traditionally-masculine traits are also valid and shouldn't be discouraged. If anything, constantly harping on that intelligence is for dainy, demure and curvy men and traditionally-masculine men are thugs and warriors is playing heavily into harmful stereotypes and further hurts both sides. It effeminizes the former and turns the latter to toxic masculinity.

    Edit: I apologize for opening this can of worms. I just realize this thread is likely to be derailed by sexist and transphobic comments...
    >_>;; TLDR: Men can be smart too, why Krile of all people?

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A female viera would be a nice addition to the main cast.
    AYE
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 09-11-2022 at 04:27 AM.

  2. #202
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    Sturm Churro
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    A female viera would be a nice addition to the main cast.
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  3. #203
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    Sieg Rotavele
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    I wanted to throw a tiny bit of info out into the wild since I see some people still mentioning the Krile goofy thing and maybe some people don't know (sorry if it's a redundant post), but that was a little whoopsie doodle by the person translating;

    "Nanjou says she’d like to perform a goofier side to Krile at some point [EDIT: I misinterpreted this thanks to the summary not having much context - looks like she was actually saying she wants to voice a goofy character in general, not specifically about Krile)"

    This is what it says now about that bit, was a weird assumption.
    Although I personally would like to see a more new cast of people for the WoL to hang out with, I'm not against some of the old ones tagging along, even though a good bit of them feel like they deserve a rest for a little bit. Because let's be honest, as much as I love some of the Scions if I have to go through another expansion of Y'shtola or someone else finding a reason to fake die again I feel like I'll lose my mind.
    But if Krile does end up joining us as a character in the main group for 7.0 I'd be excited for it. Since for some reason, even in the story bits where she's supposed to play a big role, she gets very little screen time and isn't shown doing too much. So hopefully this will help her catch up in terms of development with the other Scions. I just hope that if she is intended to be one of the forefront characters that they give her more time in the spotlight before 6.5 so we have time for more people to warm up to her and they can cement some of there plans for her within the fanbase. Girl needs some seasoning, they need to give this potato some flavor
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    And while I don't condone people saying that those sorts of people aren't valid in real life, the inverse also bothers me: neglecting that traditionally-masculine traits are also valid and shouldn't be discouraged. If anything, constantly harping on that intelligence is for dainy, demure and curvy men and traditionally-masculine men are thugs and warriors is playing heavily into harmful stereotypes and further hurts both sides. It effeminizes the former and turns the latter to toxic masculinity.

    Edit: I apologize for opening this can of worms. I just realize this thread is likely to be derailed by sexist and transphobic comments...
    >_>;; TLDR: Men can be smart too, why Krile of all people?
    Overall I found your post to be both precise and insightful, I wouldn't worry about it being taken the wrong way at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A female viera would be a nice addition to the main cast.
    Agreed. In terms of physique as well as their background lore, Viera is my favorite race for women and I would’ve liked to see someone like Fran or Lyna join the main party.
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  5. #205
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's actually on par for humor in this game, and lightened an incredibly dark mood pretty quickly. Whether that was needed, is up to the person's tastes, but pure drama without lighthearted moments or jokes is just very draining, IMO. I don't think I'd have been able to binge the original Law and Order if it wasn't for the wisecracks/humor it dropped from time to time in the episodes.
    Aight, where were the fine Fae Folk of Il Mheg at to lighten the mood after the Crystarium got it's pockets thoroughly ran by Sin Eaters?
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    BTW, aveyond-dreams. Curious.
    Is this an ALT or something?

    It feels weird to see you talk so much about serious tones, and having such a standard for High Fantasy...yet you are wearing the cash shop Streetwear outfit
    Also, I notice you dont have a single class at lv90
    So, either this is an ALT, or you literally havent been playing the game and just been watching it
    Welp, seeing how I didn't get an answer, I can just make assumptions.

    Either it is an Alt: wouldnt be a big deal, was just curious.
    Or they are just watching the game...which brings up questions.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
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    While I agree (we basically start in medieval-adjacent times and now we ride motorcycles), the same is true in real life to a degree. I find it a bit jarring in XIV, but the same is true for these stupid costumes or bikini WARs. lol Oh well. It is what it is.

    And in terms old FFs (IX is my favourite), they are all single player games (minus XI), were conceived, programmed and sold. An MMO is an ongoing thing. Applying changes to an ongoing product is just the nature of the beast. And the success of XIV just proves they made the right calls so far. Doesn\\\\'t mean I agree with all decisions.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A female viera would be a nice addition to the main cast.
    Already one female Viera in my cast, no need for more
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  9. #209
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    im tired of white hair. its almost everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    This just makes me want to dress my lalafell in a Tanuki suit, like Mario. xD
    A banana tanuki suit.
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