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  1. #11
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    There's absolutely no reason to be spending all your time on the island to begin with. Everything is time gated enough already without the rest cycles. If anything, we should be given MORE reasons to spend more time on the island. Not less.
    If you think we need to have reasons to spend time on the island beyond "I think I want to go to my island", you don't understand the content. '

    Learn to relax instead of being driven by task completion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The problem is once you reach rank 9, you literally spend less than an hour on your island. In fact, you can set the whole thing up on Tuesday to be entirely automated and once check back maybe twice a week if that. There's nothing else to keep the content alive and it only just released three weeks ago. All this artificial time gating was done purposely because the dev team knew Island Sanctuary has no staying power and would have been completed over an weekend otherwise.
    It's got plenty of staying power.

    It just has very little for players who constantly push themselves to min/max for efficiency.

    Learn to relax instead of being driven to get things done as fast as possible.

    It boggles my mind that YoshiP talked about the purpose of the content and still players are trying to turn it into something it's not intended to be.
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    Nenemu Nemu
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    I always assumed it to be a window for getting enough rare materials for next seasons.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    There's a whole game out there to play. They don't want people to just be stuck on their islands. WoW made that mistake with Garrisons.
    Again, what reason is there to be stuck on the island? What activity on the island warrants all of our time as it is currently? I spend around maybe 15 minutes on my island per day and thats being generous. I water crops, feed animals, put stuff in workshop, check granaries then I'm left wondering "ok, what now? Nothing to do, guess il just sit here and admire the view????" Takes 15 minutes or less.It's BORING. And that doesn't even account for the fact that you can basically have your island self run by the mammets once you reach max rank, giving you even less of a reason to visit your island.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you think we need to have reasons to spend time on the island beyond "I think I want to go to my island", you don't understand the content. '

    Learn to relax instead of being driven by task completion.


    It's got plenty of staying power.

    It just has very little for players who constantly push themselves to min/max for efficiency.

    Learn to relax instead of being driven to get things done as fast as possible.

    It boggles my mind that YoshiP talked about the purpose of the content and still players are trying to turn it into something it's not intended to be.
    So you're automatically assuming people who think the island is boring and needs more to do are automatically people who max grinded their island out as quickly as possible. That is a completely false assumption and quite laughable. I spent the bare minimum amount of time of my island and I'm still rank 10 with nothing to do there and bored of it. YOU can be happy with your island as it is and be ok with just visiting it for the aesthetically pleasing aspect of it, but other people are perfectly justified in wanting more to do.Assume less.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    Again, what reason is there to be stuck on the island? What activity on the island warrants all of our time as it is currently? I spend around maybe 15 minutes on my island per day and thats being generous. I water crops, feed animals, put stuff in workshop, check granaries then I'm left wondering "ok, what now? Nothing to do, guess il just sit here and admire the view????" Takes 15 minutes or less.It's BORING. And that doesn't even account for the fact that you can basically have your island self run by the mammets once you reach max rank, giving you even less of a reason to visit your island.
    Some players will actually sit there and just admire the view or wander around or whatever takes their fancy. They're there to relax. not to be constantly productive.

    If you find it boring, don't do it. Just because something exists doesn't mean you have to do it. Spend your time doing other things you don't find boring instead.

    If you need reasons to visit your island, then don't hire the mammets for the cropland and pasture. Those are there more for players who are unable to log in daily not to mention they're cutting into the cowries you make for whatever items you're trying to buy.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    So you're automatically assuming people who think the island is boring and needs more to do are automatically people who max grinded their island out as quickly as possible. That is a completely false assumption and quite laughable. I spent the bare minimum amount of time of my island and I'm still rank 10 with nothing to do there and bored of it. YOU can be happy with your island as it is and be ok with just visiting it for the aesthetically pleasing aspect of it, but other people are perfectly justified in wanting more to do.Assume less.
    You're assuming you know what I was thinking.

    Hint: you're wrong. I wasn't thinking about people hitting max rank in my response to you or the other poster. I was thinking that neither of you understand the purpose of the content and it appears that it's not right for you. If it was right for you, you wouldn't be making the specific complaints you have.

    You've also spent more than the bare minimum amount of time on the island if you're already rank 10 and other players that have also visited their island daily aren't.

    Here's another hint: "bare minimum of time" would be one second. You would not have a rank 10 island if that's all the time you'd spent there. There is no specific schedule of time commitment for this content. There's also no specific schedule of activity commitment. You do what you want when you want. If you choose to do nothing then your crops stop growing, your creatures' moods drop to Angry, your mammet foragers stop foraging and your workshops stop producing cowries. Not a big deal. Feel like doing something later? Then those things will change their status.

    Again, if you're bored with the content why are you there instead of doing things you don't find boring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opinionated View Post
    I always assumed it to be a window for getting enough rare materials for next seasons.
    Except the rare materials aren't a Workshop production requirement. You can still make a lot of cowries without them. And generating too much of any item will create the Overflow problem where the item brings in very little

    The rest days make no sense at all unless they're supposed to be a reminded to the player to take breaks, and that's going to end up counterproductive for many players since it's going to decrease how much they're making.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-10-2022 at 11:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hafu View Post
    The mammets are unionized.
    As should we all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hafu View Post
    The mammets are unionized.
    ... i kind of wish there was a strike mechanic with debate if you chose not to give them rest days ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Some players will actually sit there and just admire the view or wander around or whatever takes their fancy. They're there to relax. not to be constantly productive.

    If you find it boring, don't do it. Just because something exists doesn't mean you have to do it. Spend your time doing other things you don't find boring instead.

    If you need reasons to visit your island, then don't hire the mammets for the cropland and pasture. Those are there more for players who are unable to log in daily not to mention they're cutting into the cowries you make for whatever items you're trying to buy.


    You're assuming you know what I was thinking.

    Hint: you're wrong. I wasn't thinking about people hitting max rank in my response to you or the other poster. I was thinking that neither of you understand the purpose of the content and it appears that it's not right for you. If it was right for you, you wouldn't be making the specific complaints you have.
    So people who have complaints about something equates to "the content isnt for you". Ah, classic. Lets apply this logic to other areas of the game. I think healer gamplay is boring and needs more dps buttons, so should I stop playing healer because "it isnt for me and I dont understand it". You are being absurd. In life, as shocking as it may seem, people are allowed to want to see improvements made in things they like. The content was made for a variety of people with DIFFERENT reasons why they enjoy it. Who are you to tell anyone that you solely understand the purpose of the content and reasons why people should enjoy it?

    "If you need reasons to visit your island, then don't hire the mammets for the cropland and pasture"

    If this is the only way to have something that occupies your time you just proved the point that there isnt enough to do.
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    Next Jojo overdoses on koolaid and goes on one of his "housing for everyone" rants, be sure to remind him that some content simply isn't for him.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetestLily View Post
    So people who have complaints about something equates to "the content isnt for you". Ah, classic. Lets apply this logic to other areas of the game. I think healer gamplay is boring and needs more dps buttons, so should I stop playing healer because "it isnt for me and I dont understand it". You are being absurd. In life, as shocking as it may seem, people are allowed to want to see improvements made in things they like. The content was made for a variety of people with DIFFERENT reasons why they enjoy it. Who are you to tell anyone that you solely understand the purpose of the content and reasons why people should enjoy it?

    "If you need reasons to visit your island, then don't hire the mammets for the cropland and pasture"

    If this is the only way to have something that occupies your time you just proved the point that there isnt enough to do.
    I never said tending the crops and creatures was the only way to occupy your time on the island. You were the one who said you want more to do then brought up letting the mammets do that work. I pointed out by not having the mammets do that work, you'd have more to do yourself. You are looking for more to do not less I thought.

    But put that aside for the moment. Just about everything you've said here gives me the impression that this content is not right for you. You seem to be implying I'm wrong.

    So I'll bite.

    Why do you think the content is right for you?
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