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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No, you need to be capable of slowing down and relaxing instead of running around doing everything as fast as possible.

    That doesn't take a high IQ. That takes common sense (which as they say is not common).

    Again, take a good look at those who are happy with the content versus those who aren't. Those who aren't almost exclusively rushed to reach rank 10 and then said "now what?".
    people seem happy to afk for days on end, that doesn't make it good content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    people seem happy to afk for days on end, that doesn't make it good content.
    What is "good" content depends on the individual and what they're looking for. It's subjective. I don't find PvP "good" content. Others do.

    SE never said this content was intended to appeal to everyone. I can't remember what thread I said it in, but I'm pointed out it's fine to say "this isn't content that appeals to me". But people going on a rant about how terrible the content is after describing the ways they're rushing through the content after the developers specifically stated it's intended to be slow paced, relaxing content is almost as amusing as it is pathetic.

    What's funnier is the number of them that will continue to do the content despite dismissing it as boring, dumb and the other negative things they said.
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    I always assumed it to be a window for getting enough rare materials for next seasons.
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    Next Jojo overdoses on koolaid and goes on one of his "housing for everyone" rants, be sure to remind him that some content simply isn't for him.
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    I just don't see what the rest days add. The mechanic they're tied to is already itself a passive "fire and forget" type.
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    How dare SE, implement something that encourages people to step away and take a break, instead of going on auto-pilot and staying logged in 24/7!?!?!?!???

    It's almost like they care.
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    I have to laugh at people saying "this isn't for min-maxxers" "touch grass", as if the entire system wasn't designed FOR min-maxxers. With how complex the productivity system is, and how easy it is to not be efficient, min-maxxers have completely "solved" the Island and are now enjoying all of the rewards, while saving thousands of cowries a week and will be so far ahead of the "intended audience" for the Island when the next update comes.

    But I guess I can walk around mindlessly gathering stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I have to laugh at people saying "this isn't for min-maxxers" "touch grass", as if the entire system wasn't designed FOR min-maxxers. With how complex the productivity system is, and how easy it is to not be efficient, min-maxxers have completely "solved" the Island and are now enjoying all of the rewards, while saving thousands of cowries a week and will be so far ahead of the "intended audience" for the Island when the next update comes.

    But I guess I can walk around mindlessly gathering stuff?
    This right here, so very much.

    If this system were actually designed for a more leisurely and casual approach, something simple like a Harvest Moon style drop-off box you just put things in with regular intervals for payouts without the market simulation aspect, it would have served the goal much better, with production of items shifted directly onto the player too. If we had that I could buy that line of thought, but not as currently implemented.

    As someone whose played quite a lot of these sorts of games were you farm and rear animals and gather items from the map etc, this reward structure and way of progressing is pretty far from what makes them tick when done well.
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    Last edited by Hafu; 09-11-2022 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I have to laugh at people saying "this isn't for min-maxxers" "touch grass", as if the entire system wasn't designed FOR min-maxxers. With how complex the productivity system is, and how easy it is to not be efficient, min-maxxers have completely "solved" the Island and are now enjoying all of the rewards, while saving thousands of cowries a week and will be so far ahead of the "intended audience" for the Island when the next update comes.

    But I guess I can walk around mindlessly gathering stuff?
    Yes, you can. You don't even have to gather. You can just walk around. You can also choose to not even walk around and just look around at the scenery. You can choose not to look around and just listen to the music and ambient sound effects with your eyes closed.

    Does no one understand the concept of "relax" these days?

    In the end, the content is what you make of it. Instead of focusing on one very specific portion of the content and telling yourself that's all there is, try looking at all of it including the ability to "touch grass" for a change.

    If you're incapable of seeing that there are more things to do, I feel sorry for you. It's a sad life when you're unable to recognize the little pleasures that are available.

    Ultimately, you are the architect of your own happiness - or your own misery - when it comes to playing a game. If you're not enjoying the content, be good to yourself and choose something else to do that you will enjoy. The content isn't going to suddenly change to make you happy and the game has plenty of content options to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Yes, you can. You don't even have to gather. You can just walk around. You can also choose to not even walk around and just look around at the scenery. You can choose not to look around and just listen to the music and ambient sound effects with your eyes closed.

    Does no one understand the concept of "relax" these days?

    In the end, the content is what you make of it. Instead of focusing on one very specific portion of the content and telling yourself that's all there is, try looking at all of it including the ability to "touch grass" for a change.

    If you're incapable of seeing that there are more things to do, I feel sorry for you. It's a sad life when you're unable to recognize the little pleasures that are available.

    Ultimately, you are the architect of your own happiness - or your own misery - when it comes to playing a game. If you're not enjoying the content, be good to yourself and choose something else to do that you will enjoy. The content isn't going to suddenly change to make you happy and the game has plenty of content options to choose from.
    I feel like you're just purposely ignoring the issue here. the design of the entire Island goes against the concept of just "relaxing". Of course people can just completely ignore everything that the island is telling you to do and just walk around doing nothing, we could always do that in-game as it is.

    Also, really? pulling out the "I feel sorry for you"? Stop the gaslighting, no one is buying it.
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