Quote Originally Posted by jdgev View Post
I don't understand what kind of self-respecting RDM wouldn't consider Embolden+Verraise+Vercure utility, but you are certainly living the dream huh. Oh, I guess according to you... Dancers and Bards aren't support either guys, they are just DPS! And healers are just glorified 1 button dps right? ... dude. Support jobs EXIST and they are within the dps role. Paladin is also a support focused tank (although badly implemented). It's not hard to understand. You are playing a job with strong support hating on it's support, and wishing it had the damage to compete with melees. That won't happen. Red Mage is an ALL AROUND DPS, so stop trying to discredit it's support which is a major part of it's gameplay.

Also, you are literally the only one here saying RDM should be higher than SMN in damage lol... that makes 0 sense. What they need is to fix the horrible job that is SMN right now.

Thank god RDM is at least a job Square Enix seems to understand well and has improved upon every expansion. They just need to buff all caster dps and we good.

EDIT: Please go look at RDM in the other FF games before anyone claims they should remove support abilities... it's not hard.... just type "Red Mage in ff games" or something in google and voila.
A) Making a job complete trashcan tier within design realities of a given game for the sake of lore is asinine. Support jobs do not exist in this game anymore. "Support" is a derogatory word that describes lesser jobs that are objectively worse than non-support counterparts. Oh, but they get a worthless gimmick that has literally zero objective usefulness and only makes the clueless casual think that they are bringing something to the group.

B) "I don't understand what kind of self-respecting RDM wouldn't consider sitting below SMN an acceptable state." Well, actually, I do - the kind who has no clue how to play the job well.

C) You know what SE has done to RDM since the pretty tragic state of the job in Stormblood? Added damage spells. Who would have guessed...

D) Explain one thing to me. Sage.