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  1. #31
    Player
    XiRon's Avatar
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    Xianthi Rongalla
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    learning about loot locks has made me so glad to not be a sav raider.
    If I had to blow a gorillion gil on gear that'll be outdated after like 1 month of tomestones and didnt roll a 99 on every chest Id not even bother going again.
    All your hard work for nothing except a book...which need 4~8 of per item. So it still takes two months of crap rolls to be even mildly overgeared on 1 job/role.
    If you want more players to give a crap then the thing you put so much work into should actually be rewarding, for all players, not just lucky schmucks who roll the big number.
    (4)

  2. #32
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Phoenix
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    It may be generous for getting one job geared, but XIV is a game that is supposed to encourage you to play multiple jobs, but the loot system and equipment system clash with that immensely. I think it's fine to have the system start out more stingy with gear and currencies, but it should get smoother and faster the more time passes and/or the more loot you claim to allow you to more effectively gear up multiple jobs. Once you've gotten one job at BiS, you've already proved that you can do the grind. Why not make it faster and faster the more jobs you gear to allow you to potentially gear every job over the course of several months if you put in the work?

    We also really need Materia loadouts as well to be able to cater to multiple jobs within the same gear type.

    What's there to gatekeep for people who've already proven themselves? Why is it greedy or selfish to ask for the ability to engage with the game's job system at its maximum more easily and effectively for a game that you support with a monthly subscription?
    Dont bother, its just a se whiteknight. For him you can play any class in any content because savage not existing for him.
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  3. #33
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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    You know given the deliberate setup to prevent people from unsubbing from the game to keep them coming back for another week of savage made me realize something.

    Its pointless.

    The number people who do savage is so small compared to the larger population.

    The Loot System didn't even need to happen this way, maybe it served a purpose in the past when the game's population was much smaller but they technically don't need it anymore now.

    Even the ilvl savage stats is pointless, and yes even the weapon because it doesn't add much overall because the tomestome gear would be enough for anyone, and thus you don't have to be pulling your hair out with Savage (that mode isn't fun, its just busywork and stress considering you need to get 8 people in sync with eachother and that isn't a easy feat and the mechanics in savage makes you want to punch a drywall).

    Tomestome Gear is more than enough to help with older content if you need to get a mount or something.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 09-08-2022 at 05:51 PM.

  4. #34
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    (that mode isn't fun, its just busywork and stress considering you need to get 8 people in sync with eachother and that isn't a easy feat and the mechanics in savage makes you want to punch a drywall).
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  5. #35
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I feel like they should've just stuck to a flat four books for all savage loot.

    Who cares if the relative stat value of the leg/chest/weapon is higher; if you can clear the fights already you deserve it.
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  6. #36
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
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  7. #37
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    "This content is objectively unfun because I can't clear it"
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  8. #38
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    Thea Shinri
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I have raid in quite a few MMO, and FF14 probably have the most generous system, and it's getting more generous each expack I feel. But I guess it's just never generous enough for some people?

    No worry, the rate it's going, giving it a couple more expack and you'll get what you want ... probably.
    How many of them are KMMORPGs and 12+ years old games with outdated garbage systems? Even then, you have 19 jobs on your character here, yet the system seems to be build upon maining single job, with weird clusterfuck of gear sharing and strict weapon limitations.
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  9. #39
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I feel like they should've just stuck to a flat four books for all savage loot.

    Who cares if the relative stat value of the leg/chest/weapon is higher; if you can clear the fights already you deserve it.
    Long gone those days where I would PF Warrior myself into savages... (I blame cursed e5s days ;_; ), but I'd still love to have this. Reduction from 6 to 4 books on head, gloves, and shoes pieces was a nice addition. I hope to see them reducing the cost on chest and pants as well in the future.
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  10. #40
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The system isn't too bad if you have Static, but definately atrocious if you do stuff via PF. I guess if you want to play multiple Jobs it does take too long to get them geared.
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