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    I have raid in quite a few MMO, and FF14 probably have the most generous system, and it's getting more generous each expack I feel. But I guess it's just never generous enough for some people?

    No worry, the rate it's going, giving it a couple more expack and you'll get what you want ... probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I have raid in quite a few MMO, and FF14 probably have the most generous system, and it's getting more generous each expack I feel. But I guess it's just never generous enough for some people?

    No worry, the rate it's going, giving it a couple more expack and you'll get what you want ... probably.
    It may be generous for getting one job geared, but XIV is a game that is supposed to encourage you to play multiple jobs, but the loot system and equipment system clash with that immensely. I think it's fine to have the system start out more stingy with gear and currencies, but it should get smoother and faster the more time passes and/or the more loot you claim to allow you to more effectively gear up multiple jobs. Once you've gotten one job at BiS, you've already proved that you can do the grind. Why not make it faster and faster the more jobs you gear to allow you to potentially gear every job over the course of several months if you put in the work?

    We also really need Materia loadouts as well to be able to cater to multiple jobs within the same gear type.

    What's there to gatekeep for people who've already proven themselves? Why is it greedy or selfish to ask for the ability to engage with the game's job system at its maximum more easily and effectively for a game that you support with a monthly subscription?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    It may be generous for getting one job geared, but XIV is a game that is supposed to encourage you to play multiple jobs, but the loot system and equipment system clash with that immensely. I think it's fine to have the system start out more stingy with gear and currencies, but it should get smoother and faster the more time passes and/or the more loot you claim to allow you to more effectively gear up multiple jobs. Once you've gotten one job at BiS, you've already proved that you can do the grind. Why not make it faster and faster the more jobs you gear to allow you to potentially gear every job over the course of several months if you put in the work?

    We also really need Materia loadouts as well to be able to cater to multiple jobs within the same gear type.

    What's there to gatekeep for people who've already proven themselves? Why is it greedy or selfish to ask for the ability to engage with the game's job system at its maximum more easily and effectively for a game that you support with a monthly subscription?
    Dont bother, its just a se whiteknight. For him you can play any class in any content because savage not existing for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I have raid in quite a few MMO, and FF14 probably have the most generous system, and it's getting more generous each expack I feel. But I guess it's just never generous enough for some people?

    No worry, the rate it's going, giving it a couple more expack and you'll get what you want ... probably.
    How many of them are KMMORPGs and 12+ years old games with outdated garbage systems? Even then, you have 19 jobs on your character here, yet the system seems to be build upon maining single job, with weird clusterfuck of gear sharing and strict weapon limitations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Dont bother, its just a se whiteknight. For him you can play any class in any content because savage not existing for him.
    Bold statement considering I raid on 4 characters a week. I probably had close to 300 savage kills last tier, and I quit raiding before they remove the loot lockout. I cleared P7S on 3/4 of my character on week 2. But everyone are born politician these days so I guess calling and labeling everyone who disagree are second natural for most. You probably don't know there were a time people can realize others just have ... different opinion then them without any 2nd string attached. But then I can't blame you if the current behavior is shaped by the only social norm you know of. Sometime I miss the 20th century.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    How many of them are KMMORPGs and 12+ years old games with outdated garbage systems? Even then, you have 19 jobs on your character here, yet the system seems to be build upon maining single job, with weird clusterfuck of gear sharing and strict weapon limitations.
    I see you have great debate strategy, preemptive limit your opponent by eliminating like 80-90% of MMO on the market? Yeah I play some KMMO, but none last me for more than 2-3 months 'cause their shallowness bore me. I also used to play a lot, if not most western popular Western MMO, all the way back to Ever-quest. Yeah they're old, but neither FF14 is a spring chicken.

    Also like I said above, I play on 4 chars. They already give you a bunch of advantage with it. Maybe because I'm more keenly aware of the pain of re-rolling new characters that I don't take the benefit of the 1 character system for granted. Just because it doesn't offer you the benefit in one area that you want (gearing), it doesn't mean all the other things it offered don't exist.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 09-13-2022 at 11:00 PM.