Endwalker Story sucked and it's time to admit it

[KariTheFox]

The particulars of it don't seem all that important to me.

True, really the only particular here is disputing the tissue-paper thin theory that the third sacrifice never involved ensouled beings, and was just putting ancient cows and chickens into a woodchipper, a theory that as of Tales Of The Dawn, has been doused in water.

Seems to me that the ancients crossed a moral event horizon as soon as they started trying to use the lives of future generations to bring back those that they had lost.

[Cilia]

True, really the only particular here is disputing the tissue-paper thin theory that the third sacrifice never involved ensouled beings, and was just putting ancient cows and chickens into a woodchipper, a theory that as of Tales Of The Dawn, has been doused in water.

Seems to me that the ancients crossed a moral event horizon as soon as they started trying to use the lives of future generations to bring back those that they had lost.

Well the thing is those chickens and cows (etc.) are also ensouled beings. To be considered "alive" something just has to be born in accordance with the laws of creation (nature) and given a soul by the planet. This was even verified before Shadowbringers by way of Krile's Echo letting her speak with beasts and Alpha starting off as a soulless familiar (for want of a better term) before he develops / is gifted a soul by the planet (letting us understand what he's trying to say via the Echo).

So still you can just go "Lol so you value cows' lives more than those of people's?" when arguing this point to ridicule and shut down the opposition to thunderous applause, even though the metaphysics of XIV make it rather more complicated than that.