PvP is simply garbage

[Dreadz]

Just got cc'd for 10secs straight, god this game mode is such a festering pile of shit.

[Brownondorf]

Just got cc'd for 10secs straight, god this game mode is such a festering pile of shit.

ikr?
stuned - silenced - charmed by dancer - charmed by reaper - stuned - killed
CAN I PLAY THE GAME PLEASE???
How could they release that mode in this state???
Soken plays Overwatch, a game that is dead because there's too much CC and insta kill bullshit, he should now and warn the FF devs not to do that don't you think?
How the heck is Yoshi-p content with the current state of PvP?
This is madness.

[Dreadz]

ikr?
stuned - silenced - charmed by dancer - charmed by reaper - stuned - killed
CAN I PLAY THE GAME PLEASE???
How could they release that mode in this state???
Soken plays Overwatch, a game that is dead because there's too much CC and insta kill bullshit, he should now and warn the FF devs not to do that don't you think?
How the heck is Yoshi-p content with the current state of PvP?
This is madness.

It was heavy by RPR, stun by WAR, silence from RDM and bind by SMN, keep in mind that all those are aoe cc. FF14 PvP mirror's Overwatch so much that you'd think they contracted Blizzard to make it, except not even Blizzard would subject their playerbase to such a god awful online environment.

[Oni_Akuma]

It was heavy by RPR, stun by WAR, silence from RDM and bind by SMN, keep in mind that all those are aoe cc. FF14 PvP mirror's Overwatch so much that you'd think they contracted Blizzard to make it, except not even Blizzard would subject their playerbase to such a god awful online environment.

If only it was WotLK or Cata pvp. They did something right. You know where the irony is?

Yoshi P. Wanted the community to not backlash on the developers when it was obvious the mistake was cataclysmic towards pvp. So silencing players from berating devs is another way for saying that everyone is congratulating them on their "hard work" so they deserve a high five. No, absolutely no. Yoshi P. You deserve an award for being an omega casual player. Highly sure none of you even play the game and release patches and skills making absolutely no sense. Plus you only listen to the Japanese player base and use statistics for a single game mode.. victories mean nothing when over half the players do 30 or less actions per minute. [I set that bar low]

Have they not checked other game pvp moves? Many games do not stray away from their pve counterpart and skills.. but I'm directing this to Yoshi here. Yoshi P ideas and dev supporters are majorly Baka.

[MonteCristo]

If only it was WotLK or Cata pvp. They did something right. You know where the irony is?

Yoshi P. Wanted the community to not backlash on the developers when it was obvious the mistake was cataclysmic towards pvp. So silencing players from berating devs is another way for saying that everyone is congratulating them on their "hard work" so they deserve a high five. No, absolutely no. Yoshi P. You deserve an award for being an omega casual player. Highly sure none of you even play the game and release patches and skills making absolutely no sense. Plus you only listen to the Japanese player base and use statistics for a single game mode.. victories mean nothing when over half the players do 30 or less actions per minute. [I set that bar low]

Have they not checked other game pvp moves? Many games do not stray away from their pve counterpart and skills.. but I'm directing this to Yoshi here. Yoshi P ideas and dev supporters are majorly Baka.

And this is exactly why i made a thread asking them to play their own mode...necro in 3....2....1

[Sindele]

Asking people to not be abusive is not the same as asking for no criticism. Considering the state of the mortally aggrieved posting that goes on here, I'm not surprised that that point seems to fly over people's heads, but nonetheless it remains true.

[Oni_Akuma]

Asking people to not be abusive is not the same as asking for no criticism. Considering the state of the mortally aggrieved posting that goes on here, I'm not surprised that that point seems to fly over people's heads, but nonetheless it remains true.

There is deserved criticism, but S.E isn't asking for feedback. They are using their own metrics. Running it like supervisor managing a cashier. That may go over many of the people's heads. The supervisor makes suggested changes to improve the metrics without hearing from fellow testers [cashiers] thoughts and how their QoL might change but it doesn't matte, equaling lost employees.

It's basically corporate vs branch making changes. Cause of their "belief system".

[GordonGeeko]

The problem lies in two parts.

1) There is a culture, especially in NA, to be more vocal about their complaints. Sure. That's why you get thread names like: PVP is garbage, Devs: Play your own PVP.

2) The English speaking player base is a substantial portion of the player base and it is being extremely ignored. We've been screaming at SE for months to fix Onsal because the game mode is completely ruined. The competitive aspect of it is gone when you have two PLDs with their LBs ensuring that a point gets taken with nothing you can do. Now that the Japanese players are using the PLD strat even more, that's probably when it will be fixed. If it was was not for Discord and the NA/EU PVP community taking it upon itself to promote Rival Wings, you would NEVER get a game outside of Moogle tomestones events (and even those, you barely got any last time you could play RW in those because BLU cheese was faster). So, yes, if you seem to care more about the game mode than the devs themselves, there is an issue. And if you ask for something to be addressed and you are ignored time after time, you're just gonna scream louder.

[Charlotte_Wells]

Also things / issues can be regional.

[Arzalis]

The only two decent maps in frontlines are Onsal or Seal Rock. The rest of them just take it easy they rely on zerging and wait for the first bots or noobs to pass the battlefield mounted.

I'd agree with this with one major caveat: PLD bug in Onsal has existed for five, almost six months now. It legitimately breaks the game mode and SE just can't be bothered to address it. So I'd say they have a single decent map.

Rival wings is good too imo, but SE refuses to put it in a roulette for some reason so it only gets played because the community organizes once a week or so to get it to pop.

PvP is just in a really bad state. SE is spending all this time doing reworks, but then totally ignoring major problems. They should probably focus on fixing game breaking bugs and getting people to play modes before they worry about things like overbuffing BLM.