PvP is simply garbage

[Oni_Akuma]

It was heavy by RPR, stun by WAR, silence from RDM and bind by SMN, keep in mind that all those are aoe cc. FF14 PvP mirror's Overwatch so much that you'd think they contracted Blizzard to make it, except not even Blizzard would subject their playerbase to such a god awful online environment.

If only it was WotLK or Cata pvp. They did something right. You know where the irony is?

Yoshi P. Wanted the community to not backlash on the developers when it was obvious the mistake was cataclysmic towards pvp. So silencing players from berating devs is another way for saying that everyone is congratulating them on their "hard work" so they deserve a high five. No, absolutely no. Yoshi P. You deserve an award for being an omega casual player. Highly sure none of you even play the game and release patches and skills making absolutely no sense. Plus you only listen to the Japanese player base and use statistics for a single game mode.. victories mean nothing when over half the players do 30 or less actions per minute. [I set that bar low]

Have they not checked other game pvp moves? Many games do not stray away from their pve counterpart and skills.. but I'm directing this to Yoshi here. Yoshi P ideas and dev supporters are majorly Baka.

[MonteCristo]

If only it was WotLK or Cata pvp. They did something right. You know where the irony is?

Yoshi P. Wanted the community to not backlash on the developers when it was obvious the mistake was cataclysmic towards pvp. So silencing players from berating devs is another way for saying that everyone is congratulating them on their "hard work" so they deserve a high five. No, absolutely no. Yoshi P. You deserve an award for being an omega casual player. Highly sure none of you even play the game and release patches and skills making absolutely no sense. Plus you only listen to the Japanese player base and use statistics for a single game mode.. victories mean nothing when over half the players do 30 or less actions per minute. [I set that bar low]

Have they not checked other game pvp moves? Many games do not stray away from their pve counterpart and skills.. but I'm directing this to Yoshi here. Yoshi P ideas and dev supporters are majorly Baka.

And this is exactly why i made a thread asking them to play their own mode...necro in 3....2....1

[Sindele]

Asking people to not be abusive is not the same as asking for no criticism. Considering the state of the mortally aggrieved posting that goes on here, I'm not surprised that that point seems to fly over people's heads, but nonetheless it remains true.

[Oni_Akuma]

Asking people to not be abusive is not the same as asking for no criticism. Considering the state of the mortally aggrieved posting that goes on here, I'm not surprised that that point seems to fly over people's heads, but nonetheless it remains true.

There is deserved criticism, but S.E isn't asking for feedback. They are using their own metrics. Running it like supervisor managing a cashier. That may go over many of the people's heads. The supervisor makes suggested changes to improve the metrics without hearing from fellow testers [cashiers] thoughts and how their QoL might change but it doesn't matte, equaling lost employees.

It's basically corporate vs branch making changes. Cause of their "belief system".

[Karasio]

Asking people to not be abusive is not the same as asking for no criticism. Considering the state of the mortally aggrieved posting that goes on here, I'm not surprised that that point seems to fly over people's heads, but nonetheless it remains true.

When people go ignored for MONTHS on end about pressing issues without any kind of statement on the matter, people tend to get bitter about things, leading to emotionally charged posts deriding intern-san for not doing anything about the current state of PvP. I've been there lmao. Just take the onsal PLD meme. It has been around for MONTHS, blatantly ruining games and the devs choose to do nothing about it. Ya feel?

[GordonGeeko]

The problem lies in two parts.

1) There is a culture, especially in NA, to be more vocal about their complaints. Sure. That's why you get thread names like: PVP is garbage, Devs: Play your own PVP.

2) The English speaking player base is a substantial portion of the player base and it is being extremely ignored. We've been screaming at SE for months to fix Onsal because the game mode is completely ruined. The competitive aspect of it is gone when you have two PLDs with their LBs ensuring that a point gets taken with nothing you can do. Now that the Japanese players are using the PLD strat even more, that's probably when it will be fixed. If it was was not for Discord and the NA/EU PVP community taking it upon itself to promote Rival Wings, you would NEVER get a game outside of Moogle tomestones events (and even those, you barely got any last time you could play RW in those because BLU cheese was faster). So, yes, if you seem to care more about the game mode than the devs themselves, there is an issue. And if you ask for something to be addressed and you are ignored time after time, you're just gonna scream louder.

[GordonGeeko]

It's been hotfixed. Covered players get interrupted now.

Has it ? Can you show me where they say they've hotfixed it ?

I haven't played Onsal, but I just asked around quickly and I've been told it's still a thing. I can't find a mention of it in the game updates, just a boss fight cover fix in PVE.

[tsuchii]

Has it ? Can you show me where they say they've hotfixed it ?

I haven't played Onsal, but I just asked around quickly and I've been told it's still a thing. I can't find a mention of it in the game updates, just a boss fight cover fix in PVE.

My bad. I was just told by a friend but I saw it firsthand that it's not yet fixed.

[Charlotte_Wells]

Also things / issues can be regional.